Weekly Discussion Thread: 09/11/17 – 09/16/17

226 thoughts on “Weekly Discussion Thread: 09/11/17 – 09/16/17”

1. Watching Raw on mute across the room and every time I look up and see Jordan’s back I think it’s Finlay.

2. Oof that hit on Diggs was nasty.

3. They are making Roman look so bad during this that he’s so going over and getting endorsed by Cena and that’s just gross. I’m enjoying Cena off his leash in the meantime though.

   1. Yup, with Cena clearly winding down, Reigns is definitely winning.

4. Consider me like a drug test, you ain’t getting past me haha. Not as strong as other weeks but still pretty good.

   1. Hey, I remember when the drug test gag was relevant a year ago.

      1. Haha i equate it to Xavier woods being the new rated r superstar line.

5. This inside-baseball stuff is the dirt worst. Who gives a fuck about ticket sales? Maybe next week Cena and Reigns can argue about T-shirt designs.

6. Crowd did not believe Jordan had a prayer and it hurt the crowd reaction. That and the fact he is part of an awful storyline.

7. Saints defense still sucks.

   1. Gonna be a shootout Sunday.

      1. Without Hightower playing, both teams could reach 50 points.

8. Brock Alert

9. Are they actively trying to make the RAW Women’s Division as bad as humanly possible?

10. Oh shit no!

    1. Not this way!

       1. How dare you sir!

11. I know it’s a one-week angle and all, but I’d take a Finn-Goldust tag team coming out of that.

12. Why must they continue the Balor/Bray feud?

    1. If they didn’t, Creative “wouldn’t have anything” for Finn and he’d disappear for six months into the same alternate-dimension netherworld Luke Harper lives in now.

       1. That might get you over more than a feud with Bray at this point.

13. Bray wiping the face paint off someone like Goldust to show his true face is the kind of awesome shit I imagined him doing when he first came in.

14. Oh fuck. Asuka to Raw. I am so, so sorry honey.

    1. I truly feel sorry for any babyface female competitor they put on RAW.

15. Holy powerbomb!!!

16. In this episode of the Place to Be Podcast, Justin and Scott are inside the Vintage Vault to close out November with a look at the 11/29/86 Saturday Night’s Main Event!

    The boys discuss the Hollywood feel of the episode, a fantastic Randy Savage/Jake Roberts match, a feisty Hulk Hogan/Hercules tilt, the overall quality of Hercules as a wrestler so far, a wild Roddy Piper/Bob Orton brawl, the passing of Walter Becker, a confusing loss by the Hart Foundation, a soft win for Koko B. Ware, what could have been with Dick Slater and much more, including end of show awards!

    So fire up this action-packed episode and join Scott & Justin as it’s time for another edition of the PTB Podcast!

    https://placetobenation.com/place-to-be-podcast-episode-463-saturday-nights-main-event-viii-112986/

17. Big spot for Rex Ryan here doing color on MNF

    1. (i always really liked Rex as a HC)

    2. Probably gonna be really good at it is my guess.

       1. He’s been great so far, no hiccups or hesitation analyzing a play. A natural.

          1. Big pickup for TV with him and Romo this year.

             Although Rex is usually just a studio guy right? Just doing this one tonight?

             1. I’d imagine its that one-off spot like they used to do with Berman and the like.

18. Good for the Miz and Maryse!

19. The miz Killing it as usual on the mic.

20. Another awesome shoot by the miz

21. Monthly reminder that Miz is the greatest thing going for over a year now

22. I like how Enzo is the loser jobber in the doghouse, and Roman is the protected golden boy with the rocket push, and yet WWE sends people out there to shoot bury both of them just the same. Wrestling is a strange biz.

    1. And they are both portrayed as babyfaces.

23. Miz is moving up my list on the ptbn greatest wrestler list.

24. Enzo really does suck.

    1. He never progressed.

25. Are we supposed to cheer for Enzo after all of this? What company presents babyface talent in this manner?

    1. 2017 WWE

       1. I should have said what other company presents babyface talent in this manner. If I’m a face in the company, I’m begging for a heel turn.

    2. Seriously.
       I had no idea why I should be rooting for this guy, between last night and his inability to win a match without cheating.

26. JFC, who is this mark doing sideline commentary on MNF? His intro of Vance Joseph was the cringiest thing i’ve ever heard.

27. Saw a tweet wondering if WWE leaks fake news just so they can do shoot angles about stuff.

    1. Simon Gotch blasted Enzo in his shoot interview so I think Enzo’s heat is legit. Who knows about the rest but I dont think they are really even creative enough to do that.

       1. Agreed

    2. I think shit just gets out sometimes so instead of ignoring it, they roll with it.

28. New SD coach throws the challenge flag, then asks Keenan Allen if he caught it and Allen shakes his head no. LOFL

    1. Good lord.

29. Bad botch by Matt

    1. Poor guy can barely move out there.

       1. Yeah, I think it was fun when they first showed up, but they may be nearing the end soon

          1. He should just manage Jeff

    2. Woof, that was ugly.

30. 205 Live will air after the MYC tomorrow.

31. RAW was not very good tonight.

32. Stevie Ray on commentary… yay or nay

    1. He was better on commentary than he was in the ring. That’s for sure.

    2. In between somewhere… funny enough especially given the time period

33. http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Charles-Oakley-Sues-Dolan-MSG-for-Libel-Slander-443955373.html?_osource=SocialFlowFB_NYBrand

34. Let’s talk MLB awards. Who you got?

    AL MVP:
    NL MVP:
    AL Cy Young:
    NL Cy Young:
    AL Manager:
    NL Manager:
    AL Rookie:
    NL Rookie:

    1. AL MVP: Kluber or Alture – depending on their post-seasons
       NL MVP: Nolan Arenado
       AL Cy Young: Kluber
       NL Cy Young: Scherzer
       AL Manager: Fracona, bu if the Twins grabs the wild card, Molitor could scoop it up
       NL Manager: Bud Black
       AL Rookie: Judge
       NL Rookie: Bellinger

    2. AL MVP: Altuve
       NL MVP: Goldschmidt
       AL Cy Young: Sale
       NL Cy Young: Scherzer
       AL Manager: Francona
       NL Manager: Lovullo
       AL Rookie: Judge
       NL Rookie: Bellinger

       The ROY’s are pretty easy to name at this point. The rest are all up for grabs.

35. Here’s a topic for discussion:
    Recent WWE nude leaks (Paige, Charlotte, Kaitlyn, Maria, Melina, Victoria, Summer Rae) seem like they have failed to impress with everyone (outside of Paige) having the same boring body – tanned, muscular, implants, completely shaved.
    Back in the day, the old diva Playboy pics were way better and each different, but is that due to the magazine’s retouches or is it all simply time and quality of the women?

    1. I yield my time to Senator Cruz on this topic.

       1. Hmm.
          I guess nobody wants to touch the beaten-down bald pussy that was seen in this latest batch of leaks.

          1. Yes, that must be it. No one on earth finds those highly attractive women to be attractive.

             1. I didn’t say we wouldn’t bang them all out if possible.
                Just surprised the pale one with the smallest tits looked the best but I guess being the youngest will do that.

             2. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2ccb402b06c8325e6484b8983fbe4099315a6d6019a61f4809e9f47f3cb8e722.jpg

    2. If you were going for something other than “creepy beyond belief” here…you missed.

       1. As VKM said, “Eat it right!”

36. Big East hoops schedule has been released!

37. Looks like The Pope may be sticking around WFAN thanks to Craig Carton

    https://t.co/CcwbVFVU6l

38. More 1985 WCCW trickling into the Network.

39. As up and down as Raw and WWE overall has been… is the Raw main event scene the best booking they have done in a while?

    1. From the SummerSlam build through right now, yes!

    2. I’d agree with that. I thought the Brock/Braun segment last night was great.

    3. The Brock and Braun stuff has been great. I’d even go back to the lead up to Great Balls Of Fire with Joe too.

40. Think we see a Title change hands on Smackdown tonight? Also who is taking the Mae Young Classic Finals?

    1. I think Usos retain and Baszler wins the finals.

    2. Baszler… no way they don’t run with Ronda’s crew, would be dumb to make here lose, despite how great Kairi is (which she is).

41. Watching Smackdown, I thought Corbin was hurt?

42. Looks like another NXT DVD comp coming out soon:

    https://t.co/IpVeyxIX20

43. Is Nakamura/Mahal not in the Cell?

44. I think Nakamura/Mahal – if they do put it in a cell – has a chance at being one of the worst WWE matches of the year.

    1. Anytime Mahal steps in the ring, there’s a chance of a worst match of the year candidate.

45. This Mahal bit was clearly written by Vince and is f’n terrible.

46. This is awful.

47. Another great match between The Usos and New Day.

48. Cripes, when Naomi got her awesome entrance I figured that meant they’d never shunt it to the commercial break.

49. Can anyone explain the appeal of Dolph coming out and shitting on girls’ entrances? Bobby Roode isn’t over enough as it is? Dolph isn’t terrible enough?

    1. Dig the line about people with flashy entrances actually having to perform, since as we all know Bayley is an infamous slouch in the ring.

       1. He’s literally a shittier wrestler than everyone he’s doing. Except Shane.

          1. Can’t believe they had the balls to have him diss Warrior like that with his widow being in the front row.
             They’ve treated him as nothing but saintly since his passing.

50. This is also awful.

51. Vince McMahon was 72.

    1. The fucking GOAT

    2. Am I sick for wanting to see a pop up powerbomb?

       1. I was so hoping for one.

       2. Nope.

          I was waiting for it

    3. That was bananas.

52. Ronda backstage with Shayna… it’s all happening!

    1. Definitely.

53. Weird that they’re doing the final first right? I thought there was a 6-person tag on the docket

    1. I thought that already dropped yesterday? It’s this and then 205.

       1. Oh I’m confused, thought it was an hour special.

54. Great start to this one so far.

    1. I’m loving every second of this.

55. Lita and JR have been solid. A step up from the rest of the tournament.

    1. Yah they can just focus on two girls and call the match with very little else going on.

56. Wow, surprised. But a great match and moment.

57. Is Michelle McCool OK?

    1. I thought that was Dana Warrior.

       1. Oh OK that makes more sense. I looked quick and thought I heard someone say Michelle and I was worried.

58. Was 205 Live in Vegas tonight too? Or did they tape it before RAW?

    1. It was live after the MYC.

59. That segment with Vince illustrates why not having authority figures on TV 24/7 is way more effective. That segment was fantastic and part of is that Vince only makes rare appearances these days… meant more to see him get waxed like that.

    1. I agree 1000% Vince on SD felt like a big deal. And it was an even bigger deal when KO beat the piss out of him.

       1. I loved Vince getting up after the initial headbutt, blood coming down his face, trying to seem tough but the audience could tell this man was out of it and was about to get his ass kicked. It sold the ego of Vince and the cold ruthlessness of Owens.

    2. Truth and also why Stephanie as boss doesn’t work since she never gets hers.
       Anyone who thinks Owens is getting “buried” should think again since they have to be real big on him for a Vince bump and Shane Hell in a Cell match.

       1. Owens is a made man… Vince doesn’t get beat up by just anyone

60. Sounds like the next batch of NXT tapings are tomorrow night. Dusty Classic is rumored to be a go again this year.

61. A little fantasy booking: if the rumored Horsewomen match is happening at Survivor Series, they should have the WWE girls issue a challenge to the MMA girls to show up at Hell in a Cell.

    HIAC is pretty weak on paper right now. Especially with how strong No Mercy looks.

    1. That would be a great move. It would give HIAC the big boost that it needs.

    2. I heard it’s going down at Survivor Series.
       Read it on the internet so it must be true. 😉

62. Indians going for 21 straight wins this afternoon.

    1. They’ve only trailed for FOUR innings during the streak.

       Statistically, this streak blows the money ball A’s streak away. Pitching has been lights out. They have something like an 85 run differential.

       1. They are on another planet right now.

       2. Gotta win it all this year or it becomes a footnote sadly.

63. MLB Network is airing the Tigers/Indians game.

64. http://wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2017/0913/632095/wwe-only-recently-found-out-about-baron-corbin-being-part-of-nfl/

65. Looking to start a PTBN Fantasy Hockey League. Let me know if you have any interested.

    1. I’ll join.

66. More 1985 WCCWs dropping today.

    1. It gets grim after that year for World Class really quick.

       1. Curious how far they will go… do they own the whole run?

          1. I’m assuming they do but when it merges with Memphis to become USWA I have no idea if the WWE owns those shows

             1. They have aired some of the USWA Texas stuff from 89 or so right? It is all so muddy.

             2. I think Jerry Jarrett is the owner of the USWA footage and have no idea if he sold. I don’t think he did but not sure about ’89 USWA footage airing.

67. https://placetobenation.com/wednesday-walk-around-the-web-09132017/

    This week in the Wednesday Walk: parrots, puppies, Star Wars directors, tomato fights, DNA tests, statues, the ghost clock, Freud, social constructs, the Voynich manuscript, My Immortal, bedding, and more in ghastly housing.

68. Question: Are Breezango the most entertaining act in WWE right now?
    They killed it on 205 Live last night.
    Miz is owning the mic right now as well and Enzo remains the dirt worst.
    That is all.

    1. They are certainly in the conversation, they usually always nail whatever they are given.

    2. I’m a huge Breezango fan. I’m also enjoying Drew Gulak lately.

69. 21 in a row for the Tribe.

70. Chad Green has faced 226 batters as a reliever this year, striking out 96 of them (42.5%).

    1. This might be Garcia’s last start. He was being a little bitch when Girardi pulled him and then again in the dugout.

71. Unreal what the Indians are doing. They seem to be on a mission.

72. http://www.tmz.com/2017/09/13/frank-vincent-dead-78/

    1. That sucks.

       Phil Leotardo was such a great heel.

       1. God did I ever fucking hate Phil Leotardo lol

          1. He was the complete opposite of Johnny Sack, which made the character so much better.

             1. Lol I cheered loudly when he got his head squashed.

73. Bronx missile crisis. Here we go again.

74. To the surprise of no one but Tom Savage’s agent, he’s been benched in favor of Deshaun Watson

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/09/13/tom-savages-agent-speaks-about-his-benching/

75. Adam Cole, Bobby Fish, and Kyle O’Reilly going by Undisputed Era in NXT.

    1. Thought for sure it would be Era of Honor. #originalsteenfan

    2. They better not bring that New Japan style with them!

       1. Or the Young Bucks join the stable.

          1. Paving the way for the triumphant return of Punk!

       2. I mean just what an awful thing for me not to care much for New Japan.

76. Random show thrown on before NXT- No Mercy (October 1999).

    1. One of the better PPVs that year.

77. Brian Cushing popped for 10 game PED ban.

    1. Oof. A mediocre Texans defense gets even worse.

       1. Is Watson starting Sunday?

          1. Yes he is. Smart move.

             1. Agreed

          2. They play tomorrow at Cincy.

             1. Oh God, I forgot that was the game tomorrow night. Woof.

             2. In my two QB league I’m sitting Dalton for Bradford.

             3. I’m not a big Bradford guy but that’s probably a good move.

             4. Who do the Vikes have this week?

             5. Vikings play the Steelers.

78. Now on TBS

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5bab0035f7fc9610cb78976139343b0bb90e41a828014c665d842f2b99334783.jpg

79. What channel is Viceland? It’s on my sling package and is showing the XFL 30 for 30…

    1. Used to be H2.

80. Daniel Cormier reinstated as light heavyweight champion.

81. https://twitter.com/BostonGlobe/status/908130906732417025

    1. A brief search tells me that Boston is no longer the most segregated city in the US. Still close, though!

       1. Without even consulting the list, Milwaukee and Chicago right there for you. Midwestern values!

          1. Survey says…Milwaukee #2!

    2. MAGA is going to be out in full force tomorrow.

    3. Really?

82. Update on WWE futures of MYC competitors

    http://nodq.com/news/507371269.shtml

    1. Kinda surprised that Baszler isn’t signed. I thought for sure she was considering how she was booked in the tournament.

       1. I can’t read that article on my phone, but she’s signed. HHH announced it on Twitter this week.

          1. Ah, I didn’t see that tweet from HHH. It said in the story that the signing hasn’t been confirmed.

    2. Mia Yim needs to be signed. Ditto Blanchard.

       1. Santana Garrett too and Rachel Evers.

       2. Same for LeRae.

83. Update on vacant NXT Women’s Title

    http://www.wwe.com/amp/shows/wwenxt/article/kairi-sane-nxt-womens-championship-nxt-takeover-houston

84. Next round of Full Sail tapings are tonight. Please keep it spoiler free.

85. I’m really torn on who to pick in the insipid football game tonight.

    1. What an awful matchup

86. Bruins signed Pastrnak to a six-year deal. Usually, they slander their young talent before trading them for ten cents on the dollar so this is a good sign.

    1. I love the deal. The top line should have a great year.

       1. They are also interested in signing Chara to an extension.

    2. Bruins are also interested in signing Chara to an extension.

87. Taking a Lyft for the first time right now… had never used it or uber before.

88. This Progressive Field crowd is jacked like it’s Game 7 of the World Series. If this team doesn’t win it all it’s a travesty.

    1. Can we trade Sanchez’s translator for Lindor’s?

89. The Bengals are an incredibly shitty football team and shame on me for picking them to win this game.

    1. Brutal I can’t stand them

    2. I sadly share the same sentiment.

90. It’s definitely gonna lose the vote but the 9/14 Raw isn’t the zamboni angle. The 9/28 one is.

91. Just saw the craziest thing. Raw from October 95. Isaac Yankem and Jerry Lawler do a beat down of Bret Hart and the crowd starts chanting for Diesel to make the save. So they’re showing Isaac Yankem in the aisle while the crowd chants “Diesel! Diesel!” Meaning the crowd chanted that at him 100% more times when he was Yankem than when he was actually portraying Diesel. Hey, maybe this is where Vince got the idea!

92. Nation, need some friendly advice. I’m heading to Boston next weekend for a few days and my dad and I are looking to take in the (American ;-)) Football in a bar. What is the etiquette for watching sports on the other side of the pond? It’s a Pats home game but I’m a Giants fan and my dad’s a 49ers fan – would we need to keep that quiet or is it generally good natured?

    Also, any recommendations would be greatly appreciated!

    Thanks guys

    1. Took a road trip to see the Sox at Fenway a couple of years ago.
       Bit of advice: Learn from 1 of my friends and keep it quiet if you’re not supporting Boston’s team (Patriots in this case).
       49ers gear might be okay, but probably not Giants.

       1. Thought so, don’t want to rub anyone up the wrong way. I’ll keep my jersey at home haha

          Thanks!

    2. You’ll be fine rooting for the Giants, if they were playing the pats that day it would be a different story. You’re going to run into jerks everywhere but you’ll be alright. Just don’t sit there starting 18-1 chants or stuff like that. As a pats fan those two Super Bowl losses sucked but I’m over them because they have won 2 since then and I feel like most people are happy with the 5 wins and not going to dwell on not having 7.

       1. No 18-1 chants cause I’ve had nothing to cheer much since haha

    3. Where in Boston are you staying? I live in the area and can give you some recommendations

       1. we’re staying on School Street i think it’s called, but I think we’re going to try and see a good bit of the city, definitely heading out to Fenway – anything around there?

          1. Just get close to Fenway and there are a bunch of places. Boston beer works, cask n flagon, game on, bleacher bar is cool because you can see right in to Fenway.

             1. Bleacher bar sounds like something that would go well with the Fenway tour. Thanks for the suggestions man.

93. Just caught up on this week’s Main Event episode.

94. GWWE 100:

    Where does everyone have The Rock?

    1. Top 12 somewhere

       1. I think I’ll have him at 6. Sandwiched between Vince and Cena.

    2. Top 10 for sure.

    3. Top…30? Not as high as others it seems.

       1. What’s your list look like ahead of him? Who are some guys/girls that you have higher that we may not?

          1. In terms of similar dudes: Cena, Austin, Hogan, Taker, maybe Bret ahead of him.
             In terms of those you might not: Henry, Show, Owen, both Hardyz, Trish, Sasha.

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