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Sunday Discussion Thread & LIVE WATCH – 8/6/17

9 years ago
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Happy Sunday everyone! We are just two weeks from SummerSlam so we can chat some wrestling or even baseball, football, movies, comics, whatever is on your mind.

Also, tonight at approximately 8:45pm ET we are going to live watch SummerSlam 1997 as a group so be sure to join us for a fun night of banter. See you there!

350 thoughts on “Sunday Discussion Thread & LIVE WATCH – 8/6/17”

  1. The 8/11/14 Raw is on the stream. Hulk Hogan’s giant birthday celebration is ongoing as I type this…

    Pretty solid Randy Orton vs. Sheamus match was right before it.

    1. How does Sheamus rank on your GWWE 100. He’s surprisingly high for me.

      1. I anticipate he will check in the 60-80 range off the top of my head. He has some really good high level matches and moments,

        1. Its amazing how long he’s been around… Feels like it hasn’t been that long and at the same time it feels like its been forever.

          3. I feel that way about quite a few modern wrestlers. I think it stems from WWE becoming so homogenized the last few years. It’s like the time does hold as much weight because there aren’t a lot of huge moments/angles compared to the amount of content they put out. Guys are kind of just floating around going through the motions, and before you know it, they’ve been around for like five years.

      2. He’s probably in the back half for me, but not right at the end. A bunch of title runs fell flat, not to mention all of the League of Nations mishegas, but he has way too many good matches not to merit consideration. He’s good in singles or teams, heel or face–the initial face turn against Mark Henry was great stuff.

        1. Him murdering people in ECW was good too. And I thought he and Rusev were the most fun part of the LoN, the matches with Reigns were good.

    2. That was the same day Robin Williams died. He’s my all timer and I remember i didn’t give a flying fuck about Raw that night, i was so despondent.

  5. The Raw just ended and next on the stream is the go home SmackDown followed by SS14 itself. Cool programming today, well done.

  7. Currently on the June Hour of Power in my effort to catch up on Chikara. Solo Darling & Travis Huckabee vs. Cajun crawdad & Hermit Crab is a good little match…Travis being an expert grappler but still inexperienced in terms of accidentally distracting the ref is a pretty subtle character note.

    2. On to Hide now. Kenbai from Michinoku Pro is debuting here in the opening match…he’s not one of the five Japanese wrestlers I know of, anyone more knowledgeable have a fervent opinion?

      1. Scott Holladay was doing the interviews instead of dear Toni on the HOP. The interviews were just as awkward, but he didn’t throw it back to Vlad. Vlad seemed confused every time.

        1. This tells me that the Tannehill injury isn’t good. Have they said officially how long he is out for?

          1. No but he must be done for the year. No way they give $10M to Cutler to maybe start. If he was only going to miss some time they would just start Moore and stay conservative.

  11. “Cena is currently set to make a move to Monday Night RAW very soon, and according to PWInsider, that move will happen post-SummerSlam. “The Leader Of The Cenation” is being advertised for all episodes of Monday Night RAW (except for one) after “The Biggest Part Of The Summer,” leading up to the No Mercy pay-per-view (PPV) where he is also advertised to be competing. Cena will be missing the September 18th episode or RAW as he is currently advertised to appear at a SmackDown event in China instead.

    Currently, it is expected Cena will be working with “Mr. Money In The Bank” Baron Corbin at SummerSlam before he heads off to Monday nights to begin a new feud with an unknown foe.”

  12. Missed my 8/4 posting, but it’s fine because I didn’t watch anything yesterday.

    8/4/17 Watch list:

    7/21/17 NJPW Climax Night 3

    Bad Luck Fale vs. Tabahashi
    Naito vs. YOSHI-HASHI

    1. I’m hopelessly behind on that. Only saw the mid-season premiere. Guerrero-Mysterio LOL

      1. Finishing season 2 right now. When Selena walked through the plate glass window.

  17. Just got the kid to bed. Now microwaving leftover pizza from an earlier birthday party. Let’s do this, dad style.

  18. We are taking the kids for a ride to fall asleep while we have no power… you guys keep this thing going and I’ll be in as soon as I can!

  30. You can see how WWF was already pushing HBK as the top heel and Bret is second runner up in the opening video.

  33. The Meadowlands is one of those buildings that when you get the crowd wide shot, it looks like 50,000 people

  34. I wish we could go back to the more simpler sets and the more unique looking sets for each show. I know in the HD world we won’t, but it was more special then.

  38. Mankind kissing the cage. Such a little thing that makes the gimmick seem special. You know it’s his kinda match.

  39. Did you all order this live? I was fully invested in Monday nights at the time and kind of stopped spending money on PPVs, so I ended up just renting it a few months later.

    2. Yes, I did order it. Summerslam was one of those PPVs that I always had to order. It was like the last big thing I did before school started back up.

    1. Killer. I love 93, regardless of the shitty ending. I was fully invested with every angle at the time.

      1. 96 was more fun because a friend did the loop. House show in Detroit Friday, Summerslam on Sunday, Raw in Wheeling WVA and Tuesday in Columbus Ohio Tuesday for a 65 match Superstars taping

          1. It was a great road trip. In Coliumbis we had a terrible seats. A WWF official came to our section and asked if we wanted seat upgrades. There was a catch. Here is Godwin tshirt and pig nose to sit in the pig pen section. We said…. sure

  43. I wonder how many of these big blue bar style steel cages WWF had at the time?

  45. Man, these guys are beating the piss out of each other. Cage matches are better with a little color, but these two didn’t need it here.

    2. I totally dug the whole “3 faces of Foley” thing. I was never a big Mankind fan, so it was cool seeing the whole thing shaken up.

  50. I voted for SS 2011 because I was there, but this was a great pick. Summer of ’97, wrestling was simply great.

    1. They should bring back the hardcore title for Christie, just so someone can immediately hit him with a trash can and powerbomb him through a table.

  54. I never get tired of hearing JR ramble on about the Bengals during a Pillman match.

  56. Want to interrupt this Live Watch for some breaking news:

    Dan Connor lives in the Roseanne reunion.

    Carry on.

  58. The evolution of Brian Pillman from his early WCW days to this crazy Pillman is amazing

    2. 1997 WWF was getting hot starting after Wrestlemania 13, makes sense that around Summerslam the attendance figures would catch up.

    1. I bought an unopened box of Karate Fighters at a local antique store ($15!) this past Xmas as a gift to my brother. He popped big time. We played a few rounds and before long, the whole family was throwing down challenges.

  63. I’m surprised there aren’t more signs in the crowd. Going to WWF events like Raw was annoying with 10,000 signs in the crowd

    1. I wasn’t really into this LOD run at the time, but man, they could still go. This is a really entertaining match.

  67. How long has Mike Chioda been refereeing? That dude’s been around forever. One of my favorites.

      1. He was a ring attendant at first. I would imagine he worked house shows as a referee before being brought up to TV. I heard he’s a really nice guy.

  69. Joining a bit late – The cage match might be one of my favorite Triple H matches of all time

      1. Loved this PPV as a kid, but I remember the middle being a bit blah – but this LOD is way better than i remember

  72. I can’t believe I forgot that LOD used the Spike Piledriver as a finish here.

  77. I would not go with gym shorts when I was 13 standing next to sunny and sable

        1. His in your house countdown shows were the best, always had a good selection of snacks

  84. Shamrock took a lot of unprotected chair shots to the head, then again I guess everyone was during this time

  87. Since I just joined in just wanted to say I miss when the aisles weren’t just straight I know with the big screen they won’t ever change

    2. Agreed, I was saying earlier at the start, I miss the unique entrance ways for these PPVs. Today everything is the same.

  88. I always wondered why WWF never showed those UK PPVs on PPV the next day/night. I know eventually we got them on VHS/DVD, but UK always got our PPVs. Seemed odd to me.

          1. They made so much bank on WWF shows, even when they weren’t doing great numbers, making that much money, they’d make room.

  90. I feel old just thinking that British Bulldogs were tag champs 30 years ago and Daveyboy Smith was IC champ 25 years ago

      1. He was likely doomed for an early death at some point but not going to WCW probably extends his life for a bit I would think.

  97. The Harris Brothers deserve a lot of credit of being in the right place and right time and getting jobs

  101. Last week I became an honorary member of the NOD by Ron Simmons and D lo Brown at a local comic con

    1. This match actually had some big shots in it and the crowd went crazy for Ahmed’s power bomb – besides that pretty Blah but at least gives people in the mid-card something to feud about

        1. Missing out on the taker match at stampede hurt as well but that sums up his whole career

  106. I started watching some old SMW. If you want to see peak Brian Lee, SMW is where it’s at

  112. Owen just “got it.” For a guy who got into the family business to really just make a decent living…he “got it.”

  117. Owen was just great at everything really curious to see where he ends up on everyone’s list

      3. Interesting – I was about to say he wasn’t in long, but was a big mid-carder from 94 – 99, crazy as that’s as long as guys like Million Man

          1. Really good match with him and Barry on the December ’88 LA show they just put up.

    2. Weird that Vince doesn’t sound too worried – also can’t believe they showed the pin again

        1. True – the pin fall is just so weird, I really can’t think of another time where you go – that didn’t look right {in a non-botched
          way – talking to you IRS/Mable KOTR 94}

          1. Right… it was clear at the time something was all fucked up. Even as someone only like 35% in the know it was clear it wasn’t right.

  120. What merch were you guys wearing at this time in ’97? I never did get any Austin gear.

        1. It was the cool wrestling shirt to wear at the time.

          Three shirts that will always be ok to wear anytime: purple Savage, Hot Rod and Austin 3:16

    2. Honestly I don’t think I had anything really. I got the DX shirt in summer of 98 but don’t remember anything really before it since 93sh.

      1. Yeah, I was in high school, so no way my dorky ass was wearing wrestling merch around the ladies. Still though…I don’t remember getting much around this time.

    3. Undertaker shirt, and my nWo and Sting shirt I picked up in Philly at a house show that summer.

    4. Austin 3:16 then at mania 14 got a scu shirt class of 3:16 wore that more than my regular Austin 3:16

    6. October of ’97, I went to my first ECW show. Bought four shirts that night: Sandman Budweiser, a black Taz one, ECF’NW and Tommy’s Innovator of Violence

        1. I didn’t know it at the time , but there were two smoke shows running the merch stand. Ended up being Justin Credible and Sabu’s wives

  122. I forgot about the whole “Canadian National Anthem” deal at this time, pretty awesome

      2. Nice! I wish I still had the goofy shit I made for house shoes. Have you ever posted it?

  127. That famous Undertaker entrance. No matter what period of time, besides the very early years, an amazing site to see.

    2. His PPV title matches were shit which wasn’t fair because there wasn’t any good heels around that weren’t in factions. He really doesn’t get a GREAT Title run until 2002.

      1. I disagree… his matches with Mankind and Austin were both very good and the Vader one is great. His only real bad one was Faarooq.

        1. And this match is pretty good, with an angle at the end to spark the rest of the WWF year here.

        2. The Mankind one was average, I forgot about the Austin one yes that was good. Faarooq was shit & Vader wasn’t too bad. Ok I was a bit harsh.

  129. Vince hadn’t put the kibosh on saying hospital yet. Pre – “medical facility” here.

      2. Just thinking of this now, but have you ever asked Kevin K, if they ever thought of giving the heal JR gimmick to a different announcer? To me it just doesn’t feel nature whereas maybe someone else might have made it work?

          1. Yeah, because i thought they were pretty good in 1996 too, just the heel JR didn’t work – sort of like 1990 Piper where he couldn’t keep the character straight

  130. I think Bret has said that he felt like taker and hbk overshadowed him being champ these next few months (which is true) while he feuded with the patriot but looking back who else could you have Bret go against.

      2. Well of course Shawn had to be heel while Bret was a heel. That wasn’t an accident. I mostly agree with Bret on that assessment.

    2. That’s true but sort of feel like Bret/Austin Angle (and the anti-american) was just as big as Shawn or Takers title matches since Survivor Series

  132. This match definitely had the feel of “Attitude before Attitude”. Constant brawling outside with no counts going on and endless brawling with no sense of organization.

    1. Yup.

      I went to a house show two weeks after this and there was a big rumor that Kane was debuting there to give it a test run.

    2. Smart they didn’t, it would have wrecked all the Shawn stuff. Unless they weren’t planning that and were flat going with Shawn/Bret out of this.

    3. Didn’t Bruce Prichard say on his podcast that the drawings for the Kane gimmick were approved around this weekend? The timing fits if they could have gotten it developed that quickly.

  135. I really enjoyed Shawn’s officiating here. He calls a good match throughout. Instead of doing the I’ll stand over here until it’s my angle time.

      1. I’m in, this has been really fun. Love watching older stuff again and with a bunch of fans that love it too.

          1. I’d be in – i’m on central time zone, so i’ll usually need to jump on a little later though after i get the baby to bed {only baby in the world that hates sleep goes to bed at 9pm}

          2. I hear ya Tim, that’s why I’m usually a little late to these all depends on my daughter going to sleep.

          3. Oh man…mine was like that Tim he first 2 years. I’m central as well, so jumping in later might be a thing.

  140. Remember, a thread will be up tomorrow asking for feedback for PTBP… we will be recording the Big Event and will read the feedback on air.

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