Friday Live Watch & Discussion – 7/7/17

Welcome to the weekend! If you are hanging around tonight, come join us to chat… we will be talking Great Balls of Fire (check out Brian’s preview here!) plus there is a full slate of baseball tonight too.

Oh, and it is Friday so that means… live watch time! Join us around 915PM ET to watch Great American Bash 1997 as a group!

294 thoughts on “Friday Live Watch & Discussion – 7/7/17

          1. I hear you man, off today but working the next four, two closing shifts and a delivery day on Monday. Gonna feel beat and planning on spending Wednesday watching the three new Planet of the Apes films back to back to back.

  1. Picking up the Aries discussion – seems like he wasn’t happy pigeon-holed into being a cruiser so he requested his release.

    As an aside, really sucks his Mania pre-show match (and all pre-show matches) didn’t make the Mania 33 blu-ray or DVD.

    1. Hopefully after a few years away he can come back as a trainer/commentator. He was real good on 205 Live.

  2. Oh goodie, never watched Great American Bash 1997, hoping there’s some sleeper gems on this show.

  3. I love that the Network now is showing random shows during the day. Right now it’s the August 96 Clash.

  4. The strap match at superbrawl 96, is so weird. I know it’s the whole pillman thing. Also flair has a good line when he comes out, at someone in the crowd. I’ll take your wife home and I’ll make a woman out of her.

      1. About time! When was the last non-Hardcore Title WWF/WWE house show change? Edge’s quickie one-day IC belt reign in Toronto before dropping it back to Jarrett the next night at the PPV back in 1999?

        Never mind the last time a proper MSG house card (not a Raw/SD taping or PPV) saw a title change! Probably have to go back to Hogan’s winning the belt all the way back in Jan of 1984!

          1. D’OH!
            Yeah, that’s a big one to miss in favor of going all the way back to 1984.
            SMH…

        1. Christian won the IC Title from Booker T at a RAW House Show in Des Moines Iowa in August 03.

    1. That’s interesting. Now if they only had an avenue that they could have aired the show on. Hmmmmm.

  5. Tony says 13 times the Bash has come into our homes…except it didn’t start of PPV till 1988 and there were no events in ’93 and ’94.

  6. I always liked using Dragon in WCW vs nWo World Tour and Revenge because of that spinning heel kick.

  7. See I like how the WCW crusierweights all have these unique looks. Even those these two are masked they look COMPLETELY different.

  8. Dusty needs to talk more during this match, I need to hear about some clubberin’.

  9. Only thing that kills this match a bit is the lack of selling. When you take a jumping tombstone piledriver I would expect you to be out for just a little bit.

  10. Steiners may be my favorite tag team of all time. I’m biased as hell Bc I grew up watching them.

  11. Can anyone tell me what the hell is on stevie rays shoulder? I remember it bothering me as a kid.

    1. Were Harlem heat the first guys to wear the breathe right nasal strips

  12. I know there were other great tag teams in wcw history but when I think of wcw tag teams these two come to mind

  13. I love the test of strength spot. I used to do that with my little brother all the time.

  14. Crazy to think in 3 years these two would be fighting over the World title.

        1. When was the last title change at a house show? Primo and epico winning the tag titles in 2011? I can’t remember one since

          1. That’s right in Lowell. Alright well that’s 2 in the last 6 plus years. I like it, might boost house show attendance a little though there is a big difference between a msg show and a show in Toledo,Ohio( no offense to the fine folks of Toledo)

  15. You know I really liked Gorgeous Jimmy Garvin in WCCW. He was funny as shit.

    There was a particular promo where Chris Adams is trying to challenge him and Gavin is just taunting him and the crowd mercilessly. Screaming hes a joke, laughing at him, strutting around, having Precious spray his hair.

  16. Oh and the Steiners-Harlem Heat combo never really produced matches above a 3, maybe 3 1/2

  17. Aaron Judge just set a new record for New York Yankees homers by a rookie. Number 30. And it’s only July

  18. Your name is Hugh? WHAT Hugh Morrus? WHAT Is that because you’re funny? WHAT Are you humorous? WHAT

  19. I honestly thought konnan joined the nWo when they had the month when anyone could join.

    1. Who did join in that stretch? Buff, Norton, Big Bubba, Wallstreet? Was there any real reason why the latter two didn’t exactly take?

      1. I remember JJ Dillon saying that wallstreet and bubba had valid wcw contracts. So wallstreet had a singlet with a wcw crossed out. As for bubba no idea.

        1. Lol right. He was anti-WCW but couldn’t actually be in the nWo. Just weird that they didn’t roll with it given that both were perceived as ex-WWF guys.

  20. Just what I want in a match between Konnan and Bill DeMott, long restholds.

    1. I read in the observer at how the young bucks weren’t happy with Josh barnett

        1. I didn’t know that, it Made it seem that Barnett isn’t a fan of the young bucks in the observer.

  21. I’m sorry, but Konnan looks blown up and lethargic here. I can tell DeMott is at least trying.

  22. So konann was a big star in Mexico, has anyone seen any of those matches?

  23. mortis and wrath…. they were actually not bad as a team. just hampered by a dumb storyline

    1. I always liked them… so crazy how they had this weird subculture that existed within WCW while all the NWO stuff was happening…

  24. Glacier came at the wrong time, at 94-95 it would’ve worked better imo.

  25. If wcw was smart, they would’ve made a comic about wrath, Mortis and glacier.

    1. WCW’s licensed merchandise was just sorely lacking all around. Really feels like it was just some guy working from a P.O. Box.

      1. I mean the other shirts I’ve seen in the crowd, looks bad. The only good one was the nWo shirt.

        1. Smart to keep it simple. I had three (yes) DDP shirts. None of them looked that good, nor were very comfortable.

    1. It unfortunately just missed peak Mortal Kombat mania. The third game came out in ’95, so it had cooled off big time by this point. Having to compete with the nWo couldn’t have helped either. But I admire the attention to detail!

  26. also nick Patrick was on David Penzers podcast and admitted Hogan told him not to do the fast count at starrcade. Dk if that had been mentioned. If it has, I’m sorry.

    1. I’ve heard that, but never from Patrick. Wow. In most companies, I think I’d be afraid of losing my job for so spectacularly fucking up the biggest match of all time, but, y’know…

      1. Yep wcw. I’ve been watching wrestling for as long as I remember. And that finish still pisses me off. The sting wm match doesn’t bother me as much as that starrcade does.

        1. So petty. Like it wasn’t enough to take 99% of the offense, Hogan had to actually get a clean pin to boot!

          1. Sting should’ve won clean in 5 minutes. Then sting wins the rematch. Sting beats hall at Uncensored. This starts the nWo starting to breakup.

          2. I’m even OK with them having a competitive match on account of Hogan using his usual cheap shot bullshit to gain an advantage. And/or you can make something of Sting having ring rust. Whatever the case, as long as Sting goes over decisively and looks strong, you’re fine. They literally did everything wrong they could’ve done.

            Could’ve gotten a solid year out of the nWo slowly circling the drain and tearing apart from within, but they just refused to let it go.

        2. The WM match was an ego stroke that had no greater impact. The Starrcade match was an ego stroke that killed 18 months of build and ruined the drawing power of Sting.

      1. Yeah, but when they had a title they did nothing with it. Then two years later they attempted a division that went nowhere.

  27. Madusa got rather exposed here, but it kinda worked given the finish. Her selling was fucking outstanding.

  28. Benoit: Okay Meng feel free to hit me as hard as you like, even blows to the head go wild.
    Meng: Are you sure brudda? I don’t want to really hurt you.
    Benoit: Don’t worry man. I mean, what could go wrong from this!

        1. Right because I’m sure a man approaching 40 loves being away from his kids for weeks and transcontinental flights back and forth.

          1. True. That’s the #1 reason people enjoy working for WWE. All the days off!

          2. It’s also abundantly clear that my comment was in regards to booking, since yours was as well.

          3. I won’t deny that it is a shame WWE does not focus AJ in the WWE title picture instead. And I have no arguement with you Jordan, love your work. My apologies if I came across snarky in any way towards you.

          4. Man, snark is fun. My comment was purely that him being in NJPW would hardly be a bad thing. I think WWE pushes him pretty effectively.

  29. I can still watch Benoit’s stuff without trying to think of what went down at the end.

    1. I can watch older stuff but near the end in 07 it’s hard to watch, also if I watch the triple threat from mania 20 I stop once triple h taps.

        1. The MVP series is good I think. WM 23 and Backlash are both good Matches.

    1. I called in 93 to vote on who faces Pierre on a raw episode, Luger won the vote and I think I voted for him. I also called to vote for superstar of the year and I voted for Bret on that one.

  30. Say what you will about Mongo, but that heel turn a year before this was like the last great Horsemen angle.

      1. More a Flair moment than a Horsemen moment to me, but I realize that’s splitting hairs.

        1. was it Greenville? When arn brought out everyone then act like he forgot flair? If so yes that one haha.

          1. Yeah and he calls Bischoff a no good son of a bitch. One of my favorite WCW moments.

          2. Yes haha that one. Fire me, I’m already fired. Abuse of power abuse of power.

    1. Mongo was really over in 1997… I liked him as a Horseman but yeah Greene was a natural, wish he stuck around more.

  31. Kevin green looks like the golic brother who was Zack Morris ra in the college years.

      1. See now I want to see Jarrett wearing a doo rag, cruising in a low rider and calling out ‘vatos’

    1. 96-97 Jarrett was useless. I mean he did nothing, AT ALL. He just occupied space.

  32. Did they sell shirts that said 4 life? I don’t remember them maybe that guy had his made at the mall kiosk

      1. I remember Syxx and Flair drew some great heat together when against one another. See, of all the nWo members, Waltman was the one I truly bought wanted to spit in the face of tradition.

    1. Was that brilliant or horrible? On one hand, I flinched everytime Piper took a bump. On the other hand, having a plastic hip made him seem too old to still be in the ring much less Main Event.

  33. I cannot stop myself from looking at that huge ass lipoma on Flair’s back during this period.

      1. Lol distinct possibility. Although I think Dusty said his …thing… was a birthmark.

  34. I know it might be early but what’s the next Live watch after this one?

      1. We should do a few weeks of events that highlight wrestlers in the WWE Greatest Wrestlers project. Open it up to Old School shows, Tuesday Night Titans, SNME and Prime Time Wrestling.

        1. Yeah that is a good idea. Originally I was thinking of staying in line with the month… like keep doing July shows, but I like that thought process too.

          1. How bout some Summerslam Live watches JR? Since that is around the corner.

  35. Welp, battery is about to die. If I don’t make it for the duration, it’s been real fellas.

  36. Obviously it sucks to not hear DDP’s real entrance music, but I actually don’t hate the dub.

      1. Definitely. Unlike The Cat and Ms. Jones dancing completely off-key to the fake James Brown music.

  37. I wish Buffer had continued with DDP’s intro while he blindsided Savage: “Introducing now, sneak attacking from behind, given the nWo a taste of their own medicine…”

  38. What’s the best WCW Feud of all time? Sting/Flair, Sting/Vader, Steamboat/Flair?

  39. You know what would be a fun Live watch is Bash At The Beach 2000 with the Hogan/Russo fiasco.

  40. Good show everyone, had a fun time as always! If you need something to fall asleep to, there is a 12/86 Boston house show on the stream right now…

  41. Eastern Start times are rough, but excited by this 12/86 house, Hogan / Kamala – that has to be a mess

  42. I knocked out the final RAW to Fully Loaded 2000. I love the opening with Kurt Angle saying Albany wrong and Triple H telling Foley not wanting to team with that Olympic twerp.

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