Hey all! It is Friday night and the mood is right… oh what a night! Baseball is back with some big series getting under way. We can talk that, wrestling or whatever else!
Plus… at 9:15PM ET, we dive into our weekly Friday group Live Watch… this week’s show is Fully Loaded 2000. Be sure to come join in the discussion and fun!
I may be a little late to the live watch, just a heads up!
I have it cued on the network.
Brought to us by Twix.
This is my first live watch. Do we start it on our own at 9:15 or is there a countdown?
Usually a countdown where we make sure a few people are good to go
Thank you. I’m looking forward to a relaxing watch of a show I never saw.
It’s a great one and a good choice for GWWE purposes.
Jericho/HHH LSM is the tits.
Anything Jericho is is quality. He is incredibly high on my list so far. Cracks the top 20.
I should be around by 920/930
Gary Sanchez with a shot over the green monster!
Three minute countdown! Everyone start getting ready to cue up!
Ready. I’m at the :30 mark on the old school signature at the start of the show
I’m all cued up and ready to go
Going to get queued up and pause for JT
TV-MA warning, nice
i’m paused right at :30 second mark
So we are waiting for JT right?
Ready to go, just gimmie the signal.
And GO!
“What you are about to watch features that guy we don’t mention anymore. Oh and the King guy on commentary screams about puppies a lot.”
Vegas show?
Dallas TX
It’s Vegas i thought
Nope, that’s right – the dice on the cover always threw me off
I started it, should I pause?
Brad you’re the boss are we pausing till Justin can start with us?
Wait are we waiting for JT?
Trying to figure it out, I’m paused right at the end of the opening video
yeah just pause for 5
we’ll synch up on a time stamp when he’s back. Good group here, let’s do it together
Okay, I’m 3 minutes in myself.
Okay I got it paused on Trish for now.
You guys can start, I’ll jump in when I get settled
alright so everyone right around the 3 minute mark – go
The birth of the greatest women’s feud in the Attitude era.
I’m paused on Trish in the ring after her entrance
Go ahead and start.
Yeah start I got the video going showing how this match came about
Im on the package for the first match
Same
We are all good
same – we’re good
Luckily I’m using Roku now so no worries about buffering lol
This was Trish still learning the ropes along with Lita…crazy how they both end up being main eventing Raw in 4 years
Shows how much work trish put in to get better
I was always more of a Lita guy.
Good news everyone, our dead count is only at 1 in this match!
Yay?
Time stamp?
8 minutes and change for me.
7 min in
Oops, better pause mine for about 30 seconds then.
I liked Test and Albert as a nice power team
Yes it was a good use of both guys for sure.
OK I am at Jeff tagging Matt in
Trish is a hard 9 on the Hache Mache scale tonight.
Little liberal with the body oil too
Hardys double teaming Test right now for me.
Massive pop for Lita tagging in, great heel move for Albert to tag in and deprive us of the catfight.
I know I could look it up but when did lita join the Hardy’s? At backlash she was still with essa rios.
I think May or so… Essa was treating her badly and they made the save.
Figured it was around then just couldn’t remember off the top of my head.
That triple suplex was a great spot…. crowd is rocking
Something that i noticed going through 2000…crowds were always smoking hot
For sure, everything is so enhanced by the crowds.
Jeff Hardy hear segment for me now.
Test has him in a chinlock.
Same
Nice powerbomb by test
From SS99 through the T&A stuff I liked him, he was solid.
07 ecw not so much
Test had an underrated big elbow.
Swanton save.
Six-person tags are always great for show openings. Lots of action to get the crowd pumped.
Lita pulled off a huricanrana that didn’t look sloppy!
This has been great, everyone is on fire.
17 years later one team was just tag champs a month ago, one guy is the head trainer at nxt, and the two ladies are both hall of famers.
#WeAreOld
And the other guy…:-(.
They really put her over strong during this time…just a cool chick that can do high flying and can connect to the crowd without saying much
Women are legal to fight men in this match? I just saw the Lita Hurricanrana
Attitude Era, Jeff.
Is this the same Jeff from Jeff Learns Wrestling?
No. He was in here the other night during GBOF.
Ah, figured it would be too much for him to jump into a random 2000 PPV at this point.
Did you catch the latest episode yet?
Listened to half of it earlier today while I was driving, I’ll finish it tomorrow on the way to work.
Cool, let me know what you think.
Well I love the series. Hearing someone react to classic wrestling with fresh eyes is great.
Didn’t watch intently to the Attitude era. Hardcore fan from 84-96, didn’t come back full time until 2010. I have some serious blind spots that hurt me, but Ill work through it.
Lita and Trish seemed to be the only two women who could get exploitive chants like “We Want Puppies” and yet still have the crowd fully invested in their in ring work as well.
Love that opener… crowd was super invested and everyone worked their asses off. Really fluid. This was around when Trish took her first step in her evolution.
***1/2
I agree, hot, hot opener.
Agreed really fun match also like the post match beatdown
Really great stuff
LazyTaker arriving after the show starts, someone take him to Wrestler’s Court!
Haircut was a good look on Mick..needed to get away a bit from the shaggy look when he became commish
Agreed… and way better than his awful WM2000 perm.
Yeah, this Tazz stuff went nowhere.
They tried after that shoulder injury but the King feud and Raven stuff just stalled him out completely.
I thought after his involvement later he would get pushed into an IC title feud, but sadly no.
He just got crowded out… mid card filled up fast and he was left without a seat at the table.
The radicals joining hurt him
And Jericho finally figuring it out in the spring.
JR describing Tazz: He’s thick, strong and as great balance.
Translation: He’s short.
Even though his peak was only about a year ago, Snow feels so dated here.
This isn’t bad for a midcard match.
Just thought the same exact thing.
What’s up fellas.
We are at the 29 minute mark
That was better than I expected… they never really slowed up and again the crowd was into it. Good finish too. **
**1/2, that was fine.
Tazz and Scott steiner both had big debuts at msg that the crowd went crazy for but both ended up disappointments
And both loved suplexes.
At least Tazz had the better match with HHH.
Good win for Taz
I like the turn for Tazz at this point.
Harvey Wippleman sighting!
This is what’s going to happen Monday, Kurt sending Steph flowers
Damnitt Hunter, when your woman gets mysterious flowers, you don’t cop to not sending them!
See, Eddie probably stole those roses backstage, but Mamacita does not know that!
Chyna was with Guerrero? Not necessary
They were great together
It was a great pairing worked really well and actually helped both get more over.
Do not dismiss Mamacita!
Sigh..another Friday, another car accident near my apartment
Saturn and Terri as a sleazy couple was a fitting pairing.
Heh, Terri hiding behind Perry.
Hey that rhymed!
Saturn always looked like his blood pressure was way to high lol
I maintain that he would have been a bigger star if he didn’t have such an ugly face. Great body, really good worker, solid size. Ugly AF.
How great would an Eddie vs Tito match have been?
They are both going to be very high on my gwwe list
Sonny Gray scratched from his start tonight… trade in the works?
I think he’s starting now
Welp, bad info!
It was out there that he was scratched, who knows this time of year getting close to the trade
deadline
I hope he stays in Oakland
Odd that Eddie is wrestling with the shirt on, I wonder if he had taped ribs or was off the gas at the time.
It is amazing how sustained the sound is on this show… so much energy from everyone: the wrestlers, the crowd, the announcers, everything.
Company and product was on top of the world
Eddie did all the little things right. Something you see today from Kevin Owens and Samoa Joe.
Good comparsion
Such an insanely high in ring IQ.
Outside stuff too, like bringing Chyna to his corner just to give her a kiss on the hand. Great character moment.
Perry got his head busted a little.
I prefer hardway blood.
cut the hard way
Timestamp?
Tramp stamp.
41sh…. tail end of Saturn/Eddie.
40:30
Always liked the Eddie and Chyna pairing.
Methinks the Spanish Announce Table broke prematurely there.
Saturn has a great top rope elbow… big upset there. Fun match though, good chemistry for sure and both guys do the little things well. **3/4
Sounds about right to me.
Perry Saturn, most forgettable European Champion.
Jesus, OK, it’s TV-MA, you made your point WWE Network
Think of the children!
I was surprised he beat Eddie here.
I’m glad wrestling isn’t so trashy anymore. That Terri looked like three bucks.
One thing I don’t miss for sure.
Aw. I think wrestling should always be a little offensive and terrible.
You can get that from Facebook. I’m glad my kids can watch it with me.
Edge, Christian and Foley had such great chemistry.
The last few months edge and Christian really broke out as characters
Yeah between Backlash and here they jumped like five levels.
Was this where Christian is faking throwing up in the bathroom?
Bingo
Classic
Hoping Edge and Christian season 2 starts soon.
Should the fuck up and do the job, Bradshaw
Fucking asshole piece of shit
Those tag belts need to come back in the worst way.
I wanted to see E&C recreated the Kennedy Assassination.
And not one since
Talk about offensive.
“We apologize, ladies and gentlemen.”
He’s a dick, but fuck it this is a fired up Bradshaw promo.
It was cheap, playing off the crowd.
I was glad they had E&C go through some other teams in between Mania and SS gimmick matches. DX, Too Cool, APA… was good to see them vary it up.
Yeah you didn’t want to burn the fans out on them going against dudleys and hardys all the time
They should have faced T&A at one point.
I always thought they’d lose em quick after Mania.
Ron Simmons looks good here for being on the back end of his career
Timestamp?
Ive got 52:20
Had to turn off my laptop bc it was sucking up all the bandwidth
Despite what you may think of the guy Bradshaw cuts some great promos.
I heard that he was bullying guys. Is that true?
Depends on who you believe. Miz i can believe.
Simple, don’t let yourself get bullied. I don’t care who it is.
I’m not tough guy at all, but I would make him go through the effort of kicking my ass. It would happen, but I wouldn’t let him off easy.
Right
It’s why Mauro isn’t on SD anymore
Bah, let E&C win. **1/4 … docked for the finish
Boss Man sighting. He is awesome
Asshole Bossman in 99 2000 was great
Joining late but just in time to see them pump WWE New York so my night is made
He was about gone at this point i think.
I am already getting angry about Angle/Taker.
I would gladly show Boss Man my ID, of course at the time of this show I would have been a week away from 21 soooo.
Taker looking like an old biker stalking Kurt
Everyone loves a cage match.
Will and the guys talked about this match on the last episode of for your consideration so I’m glad we are watching it now
I take it Kid Rock is edited on the PPV too. It is on the Raws and Smackdowns.
Yep
I like that song.
He’s planning to run for the U.S senate.
No, seriously.
Stick to music.
This show has already had 6 Hall of Famers on it!
The Hall of Fame is a nice touch; a great way to honor past performers, but everyone gets in.
I have fond memories, let’s see if it holds up!
I get that they wanted to legitimize Val but so sad when they switched his awesome theme to this… whatever it is.
Think you called it porno club music or something to that effect on the FL Vault pod lol
Ha, yeah it is like music you would hear in Abercrombie & Fitch
Or a club.
Val’s club music or whatever it is.
Either of these guys making your top 100?
I don’t think so but Rikishi has a better chance for me since we get to factor in the Headshrinkers stuff too.
I feel the same but I’ll give them both a little more look for that bottom 15 or so
I’ll accept anyone’s list, my thing is just be ready to justify it. Val Venus would be tough to justify.
I have a good idea on my top 30 I’m having a harder time with my bottom 30 and then the middle I have a good group. My list changes a little everyday when I see a random match or listen to a pod. It’s a fun project though.
Rakishi is on the bubble. Val Venus? Did not make my 120.
Liking this match/feud, but I cannot buy Val as a legit serious heel character. The change is too abrupt.
They made him serious and it caused him to get shuffled behind the better serious guys. At least he stood out before.
Yep. Too little, too late for him,
Some nice stiff punches at the top of the cage there by Rikishi. Been solid so far.
This really is a forgotten Cage Match for some reason.
I like hearing King in full heel mode.
He was still prime King here…face turn later on made him lose his mojo then he stopped giving a shit
More hardway blood from Val’s busted eye!
Loved that stiff Samoan drop
Nice spot by Trish there… business is picking up
He’s Samoan the door should have broke
Lita comes out too i think
I feel like there’s an expression of sexual jubilation incoming for Lita and Trish
How did this not lead to a Lita/Trish strap match.
I’d be curious what the last one they did around that time was. I thought the stip had been gone for a long time until Punk/Umaga
Tazz vs Lawler?
Unforgiven 2000
Lita giving the receipt to Trish
That was a hot brawl.
Still an amazing spot. I remember popping huge watching live.
Great dive from the top…amazing rikishi didn’t break through the ring
Imagine if they did the ring breaking spot there
Damn came back to “show 194 new comments” – nice work guys.
Right in time for Rikishi’s big splash
Had to turn off my laptop due to the traffic crashing my Firefox lol
Flat finish, totally forgot he wins off the camera shot. Did like how Tazz opened the door while hiding for him.
Love that big splash too.
Ughsitughsitughsit… hit that music!
***1/2 … bumped up for the splash and last few minutes overall.
Booted by Torreyes! Tied game.
Bases loaded no outs
Yeah, that intentional walk shaved off 20 seconds of the 3 and half hour running time.
Walk off walk the least exciting end to a game but I’ll take it
Chapman has been a mess but that was such a lame rally.
Couple infield hits, an error and a walk-off walk. Gift wrapped by the Yankees, really.
What a catch by Ender Inciarte
Ugh, Kurt was not going to begiven anything to work with by Undertaker in this era.
What a pop for Jericho
After all that build, a walk-off walk.
TV MA yet they bleep Shane saying pussy
So quick note on this show, i remember watching my cousin’s tape of it later that summer. When i started collecting, i got a MINT VHS version of this show since, of course, it wasn’t on DVD and everything had the WWF scrubbed out. So i wonder an authentic version…which is now in a box in my attic.
Yeah the big 5 got DVDs but the others didn’t. Kinda lame.
Braves with a nice comeback win over the Diamondbacks to start the 2nd half.
Yankees have 19 blown saves. Win just half of those and they are in first still. Mess.
I did like Shane’s little stable around this time.
Sigh this fucking match.
One of the more memorable SK rants that sticks with you over the years.
Jesus how fake was that big wrench. Surprised it didnt’ make a THQ game as a weapon you could pull out of the crowd
Security was awful in thq arena they let the fans bring in all sorts of weapons
Needed Jim Dotson but he was nowhere to be found.
Fuck that guy. Prick.
Bad experience one time?
Yes.
Alrighty then
I did like the build to Taker/Angle. Especially the night Kurt brings out the scooter.
This was the worst Undertaker ever… from the night after JD00 through Vengeance01.
Pic quality just jumped to HD quality…never had this on PS4.
Really tight braid on Undertaker’s hair here.
All that wrench-to-knee work disappears.
Taker pulling him up on a count off a regular move is sooooo bad
It is a terrible mess. I hate it so much. Hated it at the time and forever.
At least in the long run it didn’t kill angle, he’s in the main event at summerslam and wins the title in October. Doesn’t excuse this crap.
A little bit better Match with them at Survivor Series.
Think they may have realized they fucked up here and were careful with him rest of the year hence SS and winning the title
Angle is doing his damnedest to get this knee thing over.
If only undertaker had been around for over a decade and knew how to sell
The crowd is really behind seeing Taker get his revenge for all of Angle’s shenanigans.
Man Angle really doesn’t even get a hope spot in here.
Fuck this match. * for Kurt trying to make something happen… Taker picking him up earlier in the match and then pinning him clean anyway was a huge slap to the dick.
What was the deal here did taker have creative control and not want to put him over?
No clue… I am guessing it was to establish Taker as a challenger to Kurt after he wins the title but Taker didn’t need the win in any way. It was dumb, especially since it was basically a squash.
I’m not surprised at the booking of Taker going over given his status with the company and where he was inserted coming back. But whoever agented this match is terrible.
Was that the worst Kurt ever looked in his whole WWF/E run?
Trying to rape Sharmell is probably up there.
Yeah that was the bottom, yuck.
I’m really surprised after watching Angle’s WWE 24, with how close Vince was to his rise, that this went down as it did. A one-off in his push.
UnderDicker
As big of a Taker fan as I am i would like to know what was going on with him at this point.
Kevin Kelly voiceover!
They should have had weezer playing in the background
Or this…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFbYtv3uuZ8
Stephanie ushering in the diva revolution as a champ here
The pop when Lita beats her for the title on Raw is fucking great.
Rock as the Referee too.
Not a fan of this triple H song
Thanks for joining us Tim!
(i am a fan of this song)
Thanks – was an hour late as i”m on dad duty with a 3 month old, but now get her laying on the ground and working on the guitar and fully loaded. Pretty good night. {I’m not a fan of triple H, but I feel like time to play the game just is so much better. This one just has too many words in it and just bland to his other themes}
My Time is the best workout music ever
What’s wrong with My Time?
Not a goddamn thing, Top 5 theme.
This LMS match is before they ran the stip into the ground years later so very interested to see how it’s laid out.
What was the last lms before this? I can’t think of one.
Never mind rock mankind from st Valentine’s Day massacre
I couldn’t tell you which was before THAT though
As of 2009 they just slowed each match to a crawl and did counts off regular moves – which is a-w-f-u-l
HHH bumping face first off a shoulder to the gut through the ropes is fantastic.
Like the rib work and I love a good irish whip into an abdominal stretch (not being snarky)
HHH’s favorite flair spot to ape – shoving the ref and getting shoved back
See I like the first count centered around the ribs after all the work he did.
Hunter’s disgust over the pedigree not getting the 10 count really gets the match and Jericho over
Low blow -> chair shot -> Jericho still selling on offense and taking it to HHH
Good on Stephanie – no rules, gotta save your guy there.
Back suplex through the table – do not see that very often
Forgot how good the HHH/Y2J Feud was leading in till i watched the lead up again.
I’m watching 2002 PPVs after WM, do they bring it up on the way to WM 18?
Not that I recall.
Does Steph’s outfit win Most 2000 award for tonight?
Steph could get it at that point.
She still can most weeks.
That or the xpac degenerate 69 jersey from the video before this match
This is a star making performance for Jericho.
Nasty blade job on HHH
Hope the 3 h’s don’t stand for hep a b and c
Match went up another gear when Jericho put the Walls on H in the ring
Love HHH only standing for 10 then immediately crumble back down
He’s so good at that i think.
Terrific finish booking-wise. Table spot looked rougher than i remembered (poor HHH’s knee essentially took the brunt to break it).
Loved everything they did count-wise there. Terrific match still 17 years later. ****1/4
The babyface being strapped by a DQ stip where he loses the title on a DQ is the WORST. They came up with plenty of tricks to get people thinking Benoit would win the belt
Kinda worked i thought. Especially watching it Live that night.
Yeah they didn’t over do it in the match, only played into the first false finish. Much better and different than Orton/HHH at Mania
Here Comes Chris Benoit And He’s Really Mad…..
Was interesting to see them dabble with Benoit in the world title mix here.
This was it for a while though…doesn’t go near the world title again til the build for XX
Unless he had one against Austin on that 01 SD
3 way with Austin and Jericho kotr01
Ah of course.
He’s in the 4 Way at Unforgiven plus gets a rematch with Rock before Summerslam.
Selective memory strikes again.
It’s all good. I think he also gets a shot on the first TNN RAW too.
I nodded off here, but i remember this match getting buzz about Rock transitioning into a super worker since he kept up with Benoit (allegedly)
XFL Reference love it
They get one in almost every week right up til it launches.
Yikes that wasn’t pretty
Love Shane’s celebration of Benoit kicking out of the rock bottom
I always laugh when Rock would stare down Shane and then chase after him.
Who bought Benoit winning the belt at the time?
I did, i remember being pissed.
I did, especially since foley didn’t come out right away
Yeah they did a good job making you think the show would end there
I like Shane “nah don’t worry he’s prob out here for some other reason you’re still the champ”
Do you think they could have had Benoit win the title here and then have a rematch at summerslam and rock wins it back and he still drops it to angle at no mercy. You could have had triple h vs angle at summerslam as well or would that have been a waste of benoits first title reign
Rock had just won the Title back the month before and they were already doing the flip flopping with him & HHH.
Good point. Would’ve been overkill had the belt changed hands here
I think it’s fine what they did for Summerslam.
Yeah I agree just wanted to throw it out there
Benoit is really strong in that main event. I like that after the restart, you’d think the Rock would just clean up and get the win, but it’s Benoit really putting the heat on him again – and it’s a snap Rock Bottom which finishes. Shane is a really good second here too.