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Daily Discussion Thread – 7/27/17

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Welcome to Thursday! Come hang with us to chat the week in wrestling, baseball, NFL (training camp is getting under way) and anything else on your mind!

Ioan continues his look at the G1 Climax with a recap of Day Eight! Also, be sure to catch up on a busy day in audio content:

118 thoughts on “Daily Discussion Thread – 7/27/17”

    1. i have it downloaded and will be listening soon. He will be 40-50 for me. If this was NWA/WCW he would easily be top 3. His highs are great, 92 rumble and his 1993 RAW match with Mr.Perfect. I enjoyed his feud with Triple H and being in the Ole Anderson run with Evolution. I also enjoyed his retirement run, from the promo that new years raw with McMahon to the HBK Match. He was middling at some points as well, his weird Carlito feud and I didnt enjoy his Mick Foley feud. That was meh imo.

      1. I think the Foley feud suffered from the ridiculous Melina stuff. Which, if you read Foley’s book, Foley thought would be the greatest angle of his career.

    2. His ’92 run alone gets him in.
      – Rumble match
      – vs Savage at WM VIII
      – regaining the belt from Savage
      – dropping the belt to Bret

      All are **** or better

      Factor in his Evolution run, match with Taker at WM 18 and his farewell against Shawn.

      He’s somewhere in the 60s for me.

      1. Yeah he is certainly a lock. Just depends how high he can climb. Lots of good stuff but also he stuck around quite a while in the 2000s and had loads of nothingness on TV and some PPV as well.

        1. I LOVE his two match run with HHH in late 05. The cage match at Taboo Tuesday and the Last Man Standing at Survivor Series were both excellent. Greg and I spoke at length about them in the podblast.

          2. Right now I have Flair 25-30 ish but that could change as I delve into more old guys and revise a bit deeper. His 91-92 run is sooooooo strong though.

          3. Yep, I just revisited the Flair/Shawn vs. Bret/Macho match, which apparently gets shat on in some online circles, but I still love it. Just so much fun.

        2. I am very low on his 2000s run, but his 91-93 is so amazing that it cancels out. Plus, I did love the Taker match, the Shawn retirement match and a handful of other matches during the Evolution years.

      1. Heyman already had some great lines throughout..it’s an instant shot in the arm from Lawler and immediately gives a fresher feel.

        Sounded like King had quit at the previous week’s SD taping bc Heyman mentioned it right off the bat that that was when it happened.

      1. As of last night I’m two weeks out from Mania. Real good build. They never mention the venue for Mania, just that it’s in LA. Also, I guess Costas was a lock for the instant replay stuff until the week of Mania. Word on the street is that he pulled out because he didn’t approve of the Slaughter stuff.

        1. I watched a lot of these on the old WWE.com Legacy site. I believe they had from late 1990 through late 1992 on there.

    2. There’s also partial playlists for Wrestling Challenge 90-93, WCW Saturday Night ’92 & Worldwide 94 on the same channel

  6. Hey guys, just finished this morning’s G1 show, great show with Okada/Kojima being the highlight, was cool to see Okada play a douchebag.

    For you guys planning on going to the Rumble in Philly, What do you suggest is the best route for tickets? Go thru the arena’s site (which is working like cheap for me but haven’t tried on a computer yet) or try my luck on Stub hub?

  10. Firing up the 1/5/91 Superstars as background noise at work.

    The weird slightly off version of Warrior’s theme as the theme of the show is odd.

    I always kind of liked Honky on commentary during this run, kind of an overlooked solid team with Vince, Honky and Piper.

    2. These must have been ripped from the WWE.com Legacy because the “WWF”s are cut out. There is also the WWE watermark logo in the corner.

      1. Yup. Also the event centers are just PPV focused and not upcoming house shows for a specific market.

          1. And another pretty good one at TTiT… they basically feud all year… on opposite sides of teams at SS and SurSer too.

    5. 15 min in and the Rumble hype is focused and great already. All commentary and promos geared right to it, everyone focused on the match.

      1. What I loved about old Rumble hype is they acted like anyone could win. You could be watching a Virgil match and they would be like ” Virgil is really looking forward to the Royal Rumble. What a feather in his cap if he can get the luck of the draw at The Rumble.”

    6. This time is interesting too because it’s when Vince brought Filippelli in to do production work. John was known for using darker graphics and backdrops. It shows.

    7. Yeah but Warrior in the intro shooting lasers out of his eyes surrounded by lighting bolts as he’s holding the WWF title is one of the most Warrior things ever.

  11. I had on Summerslam 88 last night and for some reason are promoting a Boxing Match in November that year.

        1. Sugar Ray Leonard was mainstream at the time, but the PPV flopped and Titan lost a shit load of money.

          2. There’s an episode of PTW with Gorilla and Bobby at SRL’s gym with him a few weeks before the fight.

            Vince probably wanted to have a strong 4Q between this fight and Survivor Series, plus the No Holds Barred movie/match stuff on PPV.

    2. What did you think of the Koko vs Bossman match? I watched that last night for the project and came away from it more impressed with Koko than Bossman.

      2. Yeah? It is pretty good. I think I may say the following are better:

        vs. DiBiase at WMVI
        vs. Martel at WMVII
        vs. Savage at TTiT

        And MAYBE Honky at WMIII?

        1. I HATE the DiBiase match. LOVE tge blindfold match it just isn’t really a wrestling match. TTiT maybe. Just a bit short for what it was. Jake does not have a great ppv record.

      1. I would think that they are doing relatively well considering the mass upload but who knows.

  16. Welp, TNA just cancelled the show they were going to have in Bridgeport next weekend. I was just hoping I’d get to see Drago too, since they’re advertising him for the show the day before in NYC.

  17. So, who’s all imagined Braun on his knees begging to Karen Jarrett today then? hahaha

      1. I’m sure I saw that it’s been confirmed by Meltzer – even if it isn’t, it’s true in my mind haha

      2. Both Alvarez and Meltzer swear it’s true and they have multiple first-hand accounts of it.

      1. WWE and GFW guys ended up in the same restaurant at the weekend. Karen Jarrett goes up to Braun Strowman and ask for an autograph for her son, who’s a big fan.

        Braun tells her no, and apparently start shout and swearing at her.

        At this point he finds out its Kurt Angle son, and when she says she’s telling him, Braun becomes all apologetic, to the point where HE’S ON HIS KNEES BEGGING HER to not tell Kurt, in front of the whole restaurant!!

        Almost too good to be true!

  18. OK I am finally back to this 1/5/91 Superstars… the Royal Rumble theme was the best. Time for the Brother Love Show with guest Hulk Hogan!

      1. Honky is indeed announced for the Rumble here during the Report.

        No Andre mentioned though so he must have already been pulled by this point.

    2. WWE is so dumb… why not do PPV reports these days? It is a dedicated hard sell window where full attention is placed on selling that show.

      1. WWE not taking advantage of all the resources they have available to them is becoming a problem. How hard would it be to film something in Stamford recapping and going over the upcoming matches set for PPV?

        1. Remember when they had mean gene do a report for summerslam a few years back that was great.

      2. I’d guess since the focus isn’t on selling someone to drop $40 on an impulse buy.

        I also don’t watch (or know if they still produce) their “this Week in WWE” show, which had a recap slant.

        1. They didn’t do it long before they switched to WWEN… they also have five hours of prime TV time… they can’t sacrifice five minutes to sell it even at the price drop?

    3. Orient Express vs. The… Mulkey Brothers? Bill and Tony. Vince mocks the last name and keeps saying it, pretty funny rib.

    5. They did a good job of making you think Slaughter really was tight with Sadaam. The way he always references him and relays messages and what not… was convincing for sure if you weren’t in the know.

  19. I’m on 3/30/91 Superstars. LOADED show. Mania fallout. Vince, Savage and Piper offically the tree man booth. Highlight package from this show, including the Slaughter fireball to Hogan. Vince teasing a Bushwhackers/ Power & Glory feud. Followed by Vince mentioning Brutus possibly coming back to host a “barber shop”. Bulldog in action with Vince hyping a feud with him and Perfect for the IC. First installment of the Funeral Parlor. Debut of the Dragon.

    1. That Bulldog/Perfect feud just went nowhere. They definitely worked around the houses and I think a match made a CHV but never any sort of TV payoff.

      1. The magazines made a huge deal of it, too. I remember wanting them to get an SNME or Superstars match out of it.

    3. Slaughter in the ring for his match. Introduces Col. Mustafa. Vince and Roddy not being shy that he’s the Iron Sheik.

      1. And it’s Mustafa working the match, not Slaughter. Mustafa’s gut is huge.

      2. Yeah they were very open about his identity here and then I think go pretty much silent. Same goes for Saba Simba and Dragon too.

    4. Event Center time with a Warlord and Slick promo. Warlord wants a WWF title match.

    5. Next week in action, Bossman, Jake, the Rockers, Perfect and a funeral parlor is guest the Undertaker.

  20. 4/13/91 Superstars – Taker trapping Warrior in the casket. Lanza, Goulet and Garea are useless trying to crack the casket open. Vince, Savage and Roddy doing commentary while these clowns struggle makes this segment all worth it.

  21. I made that mistake of setting up notifications for that Twitter account for Network updates, phone is going nuts with all the WCCW their throwing up

        1. I’ve seen the clip before of Hayes paying tribute while in character. Surreal for 1984.

  24. Does anyone have a link to the MSG June 86 house show so I can catch-up on the podcast

  25. In this special episode of Letters From Center Stage, JT & Allan head into their offices in Atlanta, GA to dive deep into the outer rim of the nostalgia mothership that was WCW:

    1. The Long Topic: Ranking the Years – Part Two

    2. Special Interview – “The Son of The Gambler” Jeff Gann

    To write in to the mailbag, tweet @allan_cheapshot or @place2benation

    https://placetobenation.com/letters-from-center-stage-15/

  27. Caught up on the last two weeks’ worth of Lucha Underground. Puma vs. PJ Black and Pentagon vs. Drago are both extremely worthy matches.

        1. First saw him in DGUSA several years ago. He is staggering to watch. The only high flyer I’ve seen in person who was that smooth was Neville.

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