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Monday Night RAW Discussion Thread – 7/17/17
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So do we have predictions for Kurt’s announcement?
Hoping Dixie, guessing Steph.
Probably Steph because fuck us.
As much as we know this is a kayfabe story, she is too involved in promoting the company for any kind of story like that.
My wife thinks it’s Summer Rae due to her following on instachat or snapgram or whatever it is.
Gable is his kid!
I hope it is Dixie though, would be batshit.
Here’s a question for the board. What is it that draws you to professional wrestling. Years after you first became a fan (likely as a youth). Because try as I might I have never been able to get fully into MMA or boxing. And it is that very choreographed, scripted nature of pro wrestling that I enjoy. For the most part, I like watch an athletic contest where I know I will get a beginning, middle and end. Like a three act story arc.
Yeah I agree… I mean I just got so hooked early and never looked back but I know I will never quit it, even if just for the camaraderie the internet has afforded us as fans.
It’s like a TV show that I feel like I have to finish and can’t stop in the middle.
it definitely is losing its appeal with me as the years go by though and more people I know stop watching.
First round BOLA matches have been announced on PWG’s twitter.
Sweet Fancy Moses!!!
https://twitter.com/officialpwg/status/887097969442299904
Yeah the Bucks Matches they announced are INSANE, BOLA is gonna be Amazing this year
Before anyone takes issue with reuniting the shield against Miztourage, just remember the once in a lifetime tag team of The Rock/John Cena faced the companies biggest threat of the Miz/R-Truth
Crowd here would’ve went nuts if he came out.
No Raw for me. It’s baseball season. Here is my personal order of importance for sports (real or fake) watching:
1. Baseball
2. Wrestling
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That is all.
Get a second screen!
I gotta focus, man! Too much media input and it’s the fetal position for me.
This is me in the fall. Football/hockey wins over wrestling every week.
I am at raw currently. Crowd seems to be lively here. How is it coming across on tv?
These dopey CW matches make me sick.
Notice the ropes are red
Can’t blame them if they stop changing the ropes, that is a lot of useless work.
What’s happening J.R.? They don’t change the ropes. They simply put purple duct tape around the ropes. They do change the turnbuckle pads, but that’s easy.
I saw the ring crews do this work at the Royal Rumble when Neville won the title.
Ah gotcha, well still less work.
I bet HHH was backstage screaming at the guy who forgot to pack the tape lol
Hit up Ishii/Goto at work. Goto used to be a guy who bored me to tears, but he’s improved over the last 12-18 months. I generally don’t care for the trope of back and forth forearms, but the end sequence with Ishii mocking the tiring Goto to keep firing back got to me. No idea how these guys take these clotheslines standing still. ***3/4 for me.
Tanahashi/ZSJ started slowly, with audible calling by ZSJ through the opening matwork. Great selling by both guys as the Ace focuses his attack on BOTH of ZSJ’s legs as ZSJ begins tearing apart Tanahashi’s torn bicep. Pleased that Desperado’s influence was limited, and closing finish was pretty tight. Expected the result and wonder if Tanahashi will make it through the tourney or bow out early. ***3/4 again, though I’d give the nod to Goto/Ishii.
What a throw by Judge! Hosed the guy at the plate on a sac fly, my Lord.
And then a fucking stupid error, sigh.
Big Show seems to be the guy that they test other Big Guys with. They did it with Rowan and he bombed and his push ended right away.
That lasted 5 minutes longer than it needed to
This Enzo stuff is quite dumb.
So I caught the Bob Orton vs. Pedro Morales Boston Garden match that Kelly recommended yesterday. It’s a quality match, short but fun, driven entirely by Orton’s selling & stooging and worth checking out.
What was the date on that?
12/7/85. It’s on the Network, same show as Savage-Steamboat and Bruno-Piper.
Nice, good show… on my fifth birthday!
This Piper-Bruno match is buck wild. Great brawling by both guys. Bruno’s super old but plays it like that just makes him more mean.
Despite his age I have been shocked how good he was in this stretch, I have enjoyed every 86 match we have seen with him.
Bruno was awesome in his last run. Wild brawling and matches under ten minutes long. Good formula.
That’s a super fun match.
The boyfriend looked up while I was watching it and expressed no small amazement at the barrier getting thrown around in 1985. Pedro’s hardcore!
Too bad he didn’t get an ECW run.
I bet he could’ve taken a caning.
Where is Balor going? Anywhere?
I’m guessing he is killing time until he reunites with The Club but who knows at this point
His main roster run has been a huge disappointment.
PWG BOLA 1st Round Matchups:
Brian Cage vs. Dezmond Xavier
Sammy Guevara vs. TK Cooper
Rey Fenix vs. Rey Horus
Donovan Dijak vs. Trevor Lee
Flash Morgan Webster vs. Marty Scurll
Jeff Cobb vs. Sami Callihan
Matt Sydal vs. Penta El Zero M
Matt Riddle vs Michael Elgin
Jonah Rock vs. Zack Sabre Jr.
Mark Haskins vs. Travis Banks
Ricochet vs. Flamita
Keith Lee vs. WALTER
Bray Wyatt really needs to take time off and go away. His character is so played out at this point with his empty threats and hit and miss work rate.
Would you have him get repackaged or just take time away?
The character is toast. He needs both to be honest.
Both. Take time away then come back and have him go on a long run by winning feuds for a stretch. Maybe even change up the look with different clothes.
The problem with his character is no one takes him seriously bc he almost never wins any feuds that he’s been in. He would’ve been a huge star had he gone over Cena at XXX. After that, he wasn’t the same.
Oof…
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So, Titus throwing in the towel leading to a Cedric Alexander heel turn as part of Titus Worldwide?
Gotta be gable right
Right team, wrong member
Nevermind
What?!?!
That’s awesome hahahaha I love it
Wrong AA member, JT lol
So close…
That was laughable. The shot of Angle crying was really cheezy in the worst way possible.
Uhh don’t know how I feel about this.
How did it go over live? Looks like the crowd was fairly quiet.
I think they forgot who Jason Jordan was
It seemed like they didn’t know what to do. Some were like this is stupid. Others were shocked, unsure if they knew who Jordan was.
The former is how I felt. Too forced and insults the audience in 2017.
I thought it was gable haha. I mean I am/was an American alpha fan. So I’m excited they are doing something with him. I just wish it wasn’t this. But I guess let’s see where they take it.
Kane and Paul Bearer are still the best father son duo in wwe history.
Is it possible it ends up being a ruse and Jordan reveals he was lying and turns heel?
This has flop written all over it so might as well go that route.
Triple h and Stephanie are behind it and Jordan becomes their new corporate guy
I think even that is dumb and forced. These convoluted storylines are not what a 2017 wrestling fan wants.
Either they don’t really try or they try too hard. No middle ground.
Look at what gets over. Brock vs. Joe was easy and the fans loved it.
“I HATE YOU!”
“I HATE YOU MORE!”
Its worked for decades in wrestling.
Agreed, why couldn’t they just have angle say he saw one guy in the wwe that reminded him of himself and he saw his talent being wasted on smackdown that’s why he made a trade or whatever and has brought Jason Jordan to raw, I’m glad they are doing something with Jordan but not sure how this is going to work.
That is a fine scenario. Have Angle give the endorsement without the bad storyline attachment.
You got it Sean.
Everyone always kind of fantasy booked Angle as AA’s manager so that would’ve been the closest thing to it
Or maybe nothing comes out of it bc they scraped whatever they had planned originally.
This has a weird Plan B feel to it.
“Haaaaa it’s funny cause that Jason kid is black and Kurt is white!” – Vince says while HHH and Steph sit in a corner facepalming
Hey guys, remember American Alpha?
Weird that Jordan didn’t even speak. There has to be more
Anyone else kinda disappointed
I mean honestly I like that Jason Jordan gets to do something. He’s way too underrated
Maybe he’s using kurt to advance his career
Hope so
Like what I’m seeing from garrett Cooper. Cashman might have gotten a steal
Hope so, he excels in finding these guys so it could pay off.
If we get vignettes the next few weeks of Kurt teaching Jason how to shave, play catch, win the father son canoe race then I’m all in on this storyline.
Kurt would make those fun to watch if they went that route
With our luck Jason will learn about Hold Harmless agreements.
I want Angle to go full Ric Flair and set up easy contenders for Jason.
Meanwhile the Hardys are still not Broken.
I think that whole thing is going to court. Would be better for the Hardys if it did.
Man, Joe is just in the zone right now on the mic.
Lost electricity, so probably gonna miss the main event. Bummed.
Guess I’ll get the live stream ready for this Angle & Jordan interview on the Network.
New episode of the PTB Podcast is live!
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Awesome. Liked last week’s show a lot, even if the show you watched was horrendous
God it was brutal. This week’s was way better. Thanks!
I have that in my collection and went back to watch and gave up. Volkoff vs. Steele made me tap out.
Yeah it was tough to get through. Even the Savage tag was a step back from their usual stuff. Hoping that was rock bottom.
There are some stinkers in ’89 and ’90.
Really good match here.
Once again everyone hates Roman Reigns, but the guy works a great main event.
How do you feel about this 4 way beast fest they are setting up for SS?
Unfortunately, for him, he works for a company that lost its way when it comes to creating babyfaces.
This interview on the Network so far is pointless.
The whole thing was pointless.
Kurt was really good anyway.
Jordan struggled badly, IMO.
I’ll say this about Jason Jordan being revealed if it’s leading to bigger things for him then I’m all for it.
As someone who thought the reveal was dumb, if they pull it off and turn a talent like Jordan into a bigger star then its all good.
LOL! The Table for 3 with the Nation has a great moment in it… don’t wanna spoil it, but really damn funny.
The good thing about being from the UK is that you get to wake up to crazy stuff like Jason Angle! Out of everything it could be, I was not expecting that….. haha