Daily Discussion Thread – 7/25/17

128 thoughts on “Daily Discussion Thread – 7/25/17”

1. Do we find out the SS SD title match tonight? Any official predictions?

   1. I feel like Cena/Mahal is a lock for SS. I also have a gut feeling that they are gonna do Orton/Khali at SS.

      1. I’m happy with both of those. We need a six minute match to fit everything on the card. Let Orton-Khali be it.

         1. 2017 alone may knock Orton down the GWWE list a dozen spots or so.

            1. I don’t see how it can be held against Orton.

               Like if Cena or Styles are in the WM match or House of Horrors or a 30 minute Punjabi Prison match, what could they possibly have done that made the match better?

               Orton DID drag Jinder’s best match ever out of him in St Louis though.

            2. Not sure and good points but it doesn’t help his resume at all and that may drop him by other guys climbing past him … the WM match didn’t have to be that bad.

            3. No matter what he did, that projector would ruin anything.

            4. The projector was the only thing that made that match the least bit interesting.

            5. Yeah the Bray/Orton Match was the only dud at Mania this year IMO. Was a shame as i did enjoy the build to it.

            6. At a high level (i didn’t rate the matches), I thought the Punjabi prison match was their best encounter. Shining a turd perhaps, but given the stip/gimmick, i thought they were fine with each other (it going on FOREVER withstanding, but not their decision)

            7. My big defense of 2017 Orton is basically:

               What could he do to improve things besides throttling Road Dogg?

            8. He has had a truly wretched year.

      2. I’m not convinced Khali is here to wrestle, and man if they burn a SummerSlam match on him vs. Orton (instead of a Smackdown main event) – woof.

   2. Yeah im thinking John Cena challenges Jindar next for Summerslam too. I’ll also echo Matt’s prediction of Randy Orton/Great Khali. Unless they do that on Smackdown instead the next couple of weeks and have Orton face someone else. Randy vs Baron Corbin perhaps.

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4. I’m going to make my every two month “Attempt to get into Dragon Gate” try sometime this week.

   I’m excited!

5. I like the theory that Ambrose is going to turn heel on Rollins because he’s just unable to let the grudge go. The old Hijo del Santo vs Negro Casas story!

   One thing I really missed during the Cena era was the sense of shared history and evolving relationships amongst the characters. As much as I love Cena, he never had particularly complex histories with Orton, Edge or Punk.

6. 2010-11 is my least favorite WWE year ever.

   But a Psycho Viper Orton vs Hollywood Dave Summerslam match would have fixed it a little.

   1. Still had the awesome Randy Orton/Christian Feud.

      1. I call that 2011-12.

         From WM26 to 27 was a dark year with everybody leaving and the next group not being quite ready yet.

         HBK, Batista, HHH and Taker as full timers and Jericho all leaving is a lot of holes in the top of the card at once.

         1. Yep, worth clarifying you’re talking Post Mania 2010 to Mania 2011 in Atlanta. A very poor year.

            1. Absolutely my bad on lack of clarity.

               WM27-28 was a masterclass in getting a great year out of an extraordinarily weak roster.

         2. Oh ok i didn’t know you were doing it like that.

   2. ’95 set a high bar for bad years. I can find enough good stuff in 2010-11 to make a case for those years not being completely worthless. ’95 is a bit more tricky.

      1. 1995 you were almost guaranteed a ****1/2+ Bret or Shawn match per hour and a half PVP.

         I don’t think post WM26 to WM27 WWE had a **** match amongst their 3 hour shows.

         1. I don’t do stars, but Cena-Batista LMS at Extreme Rules was pretty great. That timespan encompasses Miz-Morrison from the New Year’s Raw and Miz-Lawler too.

            I did just run through the results for all of the other PPVs that year, though, and yeah, that’s a hell of a dry time.

            1. Sheamus-Morrison too, now that I think about it.

            2. Which Rey-Punk match was the great one? Over the Limit?

            3. I think so. Right before the pipe bomb in 2011.

            4. Capitol Punishment maybe? That was the show before the pipe bomb.

7. I just listened to Letters from Center Stage #14. I really appreciate adding in that Meng promo. I remembered that promo for years because it was the only time I remember him speaking either as Meng or Haku. It was fun to hear that promo again.

   1. Thanks! It was a great one and so random. Cracked me up for sure.

8. Yankees and A’s talking about a trade to bring Alonso and Gray to the Bronx.

   1. That’ll help their 1B problem but Gray really has fallen off the past few years. He’s a #4 starter at this point.

      1. Eh mainly just last year which may have been injuries, under control until 2020 and they need SP depth, it’s a good dice roll that they get him sorted out.

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            1. Cheap contract helps but he comes from a pitcher friendly park to the AL East, where the parks are anything but.

               https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/9459/splits/

9. Brewers just grabbed Anthony Swarzak. Working on Ian Kinsler.

   1. I’m just waiting for Dombrowski to pull the trigger for another damaged-goods setup guy.

      1. And Miggy!

10. ToddFather using Sinatra as his walk-up song at the Stadium just feels right.

11. …and then leads into a triple play

12. Feels like late September here tonight… felt like I should be gearing up for watching a football game.

13. Yanks trying to dump off Ellsbury on someone. Good luck with that.

    1. They are gonna have to take back an onerous contract to do so… they should swap him for a SP with a huge money deal.

       1. You can get like Matt Garza or someone like that.

          1. That’s fine, would rather have a back end innings eater. They have a logjam in the OF and Ellsbury is the fifth best out of five.

             1. One of the more unlikable players in baseball too.

14. What a pop for Jericho.

    1. I don’t have it on, what is he doing?

       1. Triple threat tonight with him, KO and AJ.

15. Good move bringing back Jericho.

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17. Jinder demands a SS opponent next… guess this is where Cena shows up.

    1. I’m thinking the same.

       1. Oh shit

18. Hey guys, did I miss anything on SD

    1. Jericho is back and fighting KO and AJ tonight.

       Jinder is also about to demand a SS opponent.

       1. Oh shit, Jericho is he done with Fozzy?

          1. Not sure if it is a one time shot or he is back for a run.

             1. OK because his song just got number 1 on the Octane countdown

             2. Judas is doing well with Active Rock radio

             3. Looks like they don’t have a show until sept 16. But that’s only one show then the full tour kicks off end of October so could be a little run here with summerslam then whatever the sept. ppv is

19. Cena vs Shinsuke, idk how to feel about that

    1. For SS? Or tonight? I am half watching.

       1. Next week, #1 contender.

          1. Got it. Interesting direction.

    2. For next week It’s like they’re fucking blowing their load before they insert

20. Cena vs Nakamura next week is interesting.

    1. Since we are getting Cena Jinder for summerslam do you think Corbin interferes to cost Nak setting up another match between them at ss.

       1. Would certainly make sense.

       2. Yeah I can see it.

21. There’s your big test for Nakamura. Can’t keep blaming Ziggy and Corbin if the Cena match goes poorly.

    1. Yup will be a huge test for sure. I think he delivers because he usually steps up for big matches… but in a way does that speak louder volumes?

       1. He’s like a NBA player who doesn’t really get up for the random January game against Orlando but come playoff time he raises his game to the next level.

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23. They are nuts for doing Cena/Nakamura on free tv.

    1. I’m hoping for a screw job. Corbin takes out Nakamura before the match.

24. Off topic but when do you guys think Corbin cashes in? If we think Cena is winning at Summerslam does he cash in on Cena at some point in the coming months or is it after Cena drops it? Any ideas or thoughts?

    1. I can see Corbin cashing in at Summerslam.

       1. On Cena?

          1. I would say they wouldn’t waste his record setting reign lasting a few min but his record tying one lasted 2 weeks so I guess it doesn’t really matter.

          2. Maybe

25. WTF with Bennett.

    1. I’m so mad. Makes zero sense.

    2. The writing was on the wall at Battleground. He was booked like a total chump.

26. Can I say Renee Young is hache mache.

    1. I’m totally burnt out. I have Renee fatigue. I have nothing against her and she’s a decent talent but she’s literally on every single piece of WWE TV.

    2. She’s great at her job and looks good, but she’s no Charly.

27. Nice insurance blast by Didi.

28. SummerSlam ’94 is on the live stream next Sunday.

    Who’s down for a live watch?

    1. That works for me because I will probably miss out on Friday.

    2. What time?

       1. Live stream starts at 8

          1. Sounds good

29. AJ winning this back makes me think there was some sort of fuck up at Battleground?

    1. Nah, I think this leads to KO and Shane

       1. OK yeah that makes sense.

       2. FML

       3. I’m ok with seeing that match. Interesting that Jericho is back.

    2. If they didn’t play KO’s music right after the count, i’d be more inclined to believe.

       Bad hotshot booking anyway (something they’re conditioning us maybe more with since they did similar with Sasha/Charlotte?)

30. 205 Live Time!

    1. Yes!

       1. The tag match should be great

          1. For sure, looking forward to it.

31. Tonight>Battleground.

32. Just finished smackdown, I enjoyed that triple threat.

33. Daivari is bland.

    1. He’s slightly less bland than his brother was, at least. Probably.

34. That photoshop segment was…………………………bad.

    1. Yep, but even at that, 205 is so focused and has week to week build and dedicated feuds with blow offs.

       1. The match should be good at least.

35. Swann’s work has gotten better since joining the WWE.

    1. Definitely improved month to month.

    2. I’ve always been a fan.

36. Talking Smack lives?

    https://twitter.com/WWEDanielBryan/status/890031803452600320

    1. Wait, TOUT lives??

       1. Apparently

    2. You’re 5 years older than me. Great line.

37. Shit, Cedric might have hurt himself on that dive

    1. Hopefully not, would suck if he goes down again.

       1. He landed right on his tailbone. Definitely going to feel that tomorrow.

38. Nese doing crunches and kicking away at Cedric in the Tree of Woe is fantastic.

    1. I love that spot.

39. Crowd is into Cedric

40. Bout to go watch 205 Live now after doing a couple things when SD ended. How is it?

    1. Solid show. Good main event and the Cruiserweight Title feud stuff was fine.

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