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And of course, be sure to be here by 7pm ET as we all watch and chat about Great Balls of Fire together!
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Heading to he beach today but will be settled in tonight to watch and chat about Great Balls of Fire… what are your picks?
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It’s sad that the WWE doesn’t seem interested in taking the big 2 outside of their current comfort zone “vacation spots”. I have no doubt other cities would make very competitive bids. This is especially true for Summerslam…gah! They really need to go the ballpark route and give “winter cities” a chance to host the big shows again. (ahem::Chicago::cough)
Fenway would be terrible for live wrestling and there are not enough hotels, venues for other shows, restaurants, bars, etc. around foxboro for people traveling to Mania.
Agreed on both.
Citi Field in Queens would be awesome.
Topanga, a wrestling fan??? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ef56ca38c4ec53664a67d5a8c723214ffd3c0c463847e2f31596e465dc1f1368.png
Picks for GBoF:
Brock
Roman
Alexa (I’m hoping for Bayley heel turn!)
Wyatt
Cass
Miz
Cesaro & Sheamus
Neville
Ifs weird to say because the feud is so flat, but the Rollins/Wyatt match is the most interesting to me. Reason being, Wyatt desperately needs a “big match” win, but against Rollins it seems unlikely. Seriously, it’s weird booking!
I’m a big proponent that the best use of Wyatt is picking fights with heroes who suffered devastating losses and have newly rattled confidence. Playing mind games with people it would actually work on.
Seth’s like the polar opposite of that after slaying HHH. It’s just a mind boggling feud pairing.
Not gonna see GBOF tonight, heading to all-star Sunday, watching the futures game and some celebrity softball action.
No, Sid will not be playing there tonight.
Doing some watching of really old WWWF (60s-70s) for PTBN GWWE. Anybody have any good youtube channels or other places online for classic matches?
Here’s a cool historical match for everyone:
From 1990(?) UWA in Mexico:
El Canek vs The Blue Blazer-Mask vs Mask
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=titn8pA1j1U
http://www.wwenetworknews.com/2017/07/09/exclusive-final-details-on-wwecw-classic-content-drop-set-for-tomorrow/
Pretty awesome, excited to rewatch some of this for sure.
I’m happy the Head to Head special is included. I was at that show.
Ive been waiting patiently for those for sure. I really wanted to see the evolution of CM Punk within this brand. He says this time was the most influential for his career. He learned the business inside and out during this time from Paul Heyman.
I swear, I just saw a decent Beautiful Bobby promo. On the
8-20-88 episode of World Championship Wrestling, Arn and Tully interrupt a Midnight Express promo and Bobby gets in Tully’s face and says he does his talking in the ring and repeats Tully is a piece of trash like three or four times. It was like seeing a unicorn.
Anyone think Big Show helps enzo win tonight?
Hmm yeah possible, hadn’t thought of that.
That could happen then have cass beat big show at summerslam
Enzo and Cass have both been good during this fued
I’ve seen none of the TV build, but the video package makes it look impressive. Enzo with the single tear!
Tag team break-ups with fake make-ups are a nice, if obvious touch, and aren’t done much anymore. It’s a good way of stretching the story. Granted, this Enzo/Cass thing has taken place over the span of a single PPV build, but still. Appreciate it when I see it.
Picks for this match? I’m going Neville and with that who do you guys see him facing at Summerslam?
Neville. He probably won’t drop the belt until the Rumble or Wrestlemania.
Neville. And Titus is totally turning, right? Dunno about Summerslam. Who’s really left for him to defend against on the face side?
After Tozawa, who else is there for Neville to run over?
Maybe they bring up Gargano, since they are obviously going to have to hold off his feud with Ciampa.
Cedric
There we go. I wasn’t entirely sure if he was still around, tbh.
That makes sense since he has replaced Aries on the house shows
He just returned from injury, but given his run so far I don’t think he’s above Tozawa in the pecking order.
Anyone else notice Hogan in that commercial? Is that a new adjustment?
Umm
That was a terrible finish
Well, Titus would be completely justified in turning after a loss like that.
Already kicking the night off with the terrible finishes
Get the terrible finishes out of the way let’s hope that’s all
Hopefully
1.75*, terrible offense from Kazawa. It didn’t seem like his offense clicked very well. I did like the firemans carry into a octopus stretch, that was done well. Overall another great performance by King Neville. That stop and show of the belt before the fade was awesomely heel!
Brock showing even an ounce of vulnerability makes Joe look like the baddest fucking man on the planet.
Correct. Aside from Oldberg, he bulldozed through everything and everyone for three years.
Yep, and even the Goldberg stuff was flukey. He legitimately looks sympathetic here. Which I guess is to say, there is still value to having Brock around… provided he does more than the formulaic bullshit.
It’s gotta be a Goldberg Mania style match – maybe 8 minutes? I can’t see them giving Joe enough to sustain a 20 minute match.
Hey guys, that cruiserweight match was pretty damn great
For sure… and it may have hooked a new fan that happened to be here for that match.
I’m going 4 stars on it and if the finish wasn’t shit I’d give it 4.25
Good choice for jerking the curtain. This match needs it, the crowd would be dead at any other position.
Good way of thinking about it
Fuck, to a match that nobody gives a flying fuck about. Bray Wyatt vs Seth Rollins, Bray is more like the Eater of Pins
It’s better here than anywhere else on the card.
Is there a drinking game for how many times they say Great Balls of Fire tonight?
If there is I will be blasted by the end of the night
Might make for a better PPV
This is actually a good card
Agreed, looks real good on paper.
WWE could’ve made a cool set for this at least……but they didn’t
Bray Wyatt got a real musician entrance at a WrestleMania guys. Hard to imagine
This match isnt doing it for me.
I am watching with Jeff of Jeff Learns Wrestling! Culture shock!
That sure was a WWE July PPV match.
Lol Bray has many of those…
Wow clean…
Certainly the biggest surprise, but the finish could’ve used More Sex.
Most finishes should.
Rankings so far:
Neville/Tozawa: **3/4
Rollins/Wyatt:**1/4
Brian, I’m going a full star higher on my rating. They were able to get good offense in a quick eight minute match. They had different move sets from Raw, and plus the heel got a clean win, that alone is worth the higher rating.
I dont think Bray should be winning anything due to how cold his character has become. He can lose then they can retool him. Regardless, that match was one I was not really looking forward to seeing.
I expected the Cruiser match to end in a way that could lead to a rematch but they did it in a really ineffective way.
Bray winning is simply a prelude to more matches.
Yeah, I wrote in my preview if he wins its because they are continuing the feud. I was just hoping they had Seth win and move both on to something else because these guys do not appear to have much chemistry.
Wow! Excellent opener. These guys have great chemistry in the ring. Huge win for Wyatt. This match alone has me high on them moving forward.
It was solid with back and forth affair.
Matt Hardy still teasing it.
Ah this will be a pleasure to watch.
The Certified G all the way, my guy, Enzo Amore!
Big Cass should squash Enzo like a bug tonight
This match might suck but I still dig the story. Both guys have been good in their roles.
Agree. Love when breakups actually feel meaningful.
Will they give Cass new music?
I feel like for a “Grudge” match, Enzo should probably not do the shtick for a night
Depends on the type ignore promo he cuts
He seems to be a little more serious than usual while keeping some of his normal Enzo energy. I think it works.
Hey I was there for that!
This is a good promo
Agreed
Enzo’s trying, but this promo is incomprehensible shit
It’s his five-paragraph essay about some Sinatra song.
I think I’ve gotten that much at least
I kind of like that it is all over the place… he is legit angry.
Update: Enzo is still talking.
Best Enzo promo. The crowd popped for it.
Some of Enzo’s best promo work in a while over the past few weeks.
Not a big fan of the theme music
I kinda like the theme and Titantron for Cass
Good sign: Cass is no longer wearing the middle of a plain black T-shirt.
Bad sign: Enzo’s promos are the only reason anyone ever cared about Cass.
Nice to see “generic big man music #6” finally get some use. Nice touch Enzo’s gear is all of their old shirts
Thumbs down on the theme.
What happened to Corey hating on Enzo?
Think we get a knockout finish?
Or not…
That was a night off for Big Cass.
Squash city… right move
No surprise there
Think we get big show vs cass at summerslam?
Loser has to drop the big from their name
Perhaps they’ll have a rematch tomorrow where Show gets involved
They get cass music from generic wcw archive? Terrible!
I can’t wait for the Angle 24
Ah that was nice. *****
Give it a * but you can build off of it in storyline. Like Enzo said, he keeps getting back up whenever he is knocked down.
This feud COULD end up doing more for Enzo, at least in the short term. His ability to emote can power small cities.
Seeing Dixie on WWE tv is odd, do they pull the Bischoff and make her a GM, with AJ having the look of shock when she comes walking in
Would be great if she was the person communicating with Kurt and Graves.
Yes, the iron man match is up
Hardys are going over here
Yeah I think so too. Should be good.
Agreed should be a very good mstch
I picked Cesaro & Sheamus. Its too soon for them to lose and The Hardy’s can lose and possibly come back with the “Broken” stuff.
Yeah but think sheamus taking an loa to film a bad movie with fergies husband
It should go to a tie so Mick Foley can come back and make them be in a stable together.
Is that like another macro from his time as GM in 2000?
Aww, Sheamus and Cesaro have become BFFs with matching gear since last I saw them!
They’re much closer now. Their recent Ride Along is really cute.
Clearly I’ve missed at least something of value!
I predict that this match will go 30 minutes
UP UP UP
Well shit..
Brilliant first fall of this match
I hope they give this match at least 30 min
They should give it 35 and call it 30. King Kong Bundy once won a match in “9 seconds”.
That would be great
The clock becomes broken before Matt does
Crowd is flat for the Hardy’s
Shut up about the Super Bowl!
That will be referenced for a very long time.
Sigh.
If Atlanta just kept running the ball in the second half then no one would be hearing about it.
Making Cesaro and Sheamus look like beasts.
Holy Sheamus hit that post hard
Poor Matt can barely get on his knees. God bless them.
Jeff looks like he is struggling too.
Hardys look older than GLOW’s Ethel and Edna Rosenblatt
This has been decent but more of a psychology story than a work rate story.
Anytime Matt takes a Hard shot to the head I just hope he gets up Broken, Jeff may not need it but I felt like it gave Matt character
I think the same thing!!
The elderly version of the Hardys were probably the wrong team to try this stipulation out with.
Probably accurate.
Calling them The Hardy “Boyz” connotates that they have energy.
Yeah they should just be called the Hardyz
So, Sheamus/Cesaro win this, who exactly do they feud with since you’ve broken up all the other Face tag teams
Hoping hardys into the revival
That’s what I hope.
Meh, F*ck those guys lol
The DOA.
Turn Gallows & Anderson face is an option.
I could see that, maybe we get a possible club reunion since finns feuding with the drifter who’s been paling around with Sheamus & Cesaro
Apparently they worked as faces against The Revival last week for a match shown on Main Event.
They can turn them by reuniting The Club and since Balor pinned Cesaro twice recently that can be used in storyline
Suggesting Jeff get back on the horse was perhaps a poor choice of words
Last 10 minutes have been good.
Yeah it’s really picked up
For sure, it lagged a little in the middle but it’s really heated up.
Crowd has really stepped up as well.
Poor ref
That was a good move to tie it
That was pretty sick.
Um……..
Wow haha. I didn’t even see the tag
Matt’s face is a mess
Working with Sheamus will do that.
ACtually, It might have happened when Cesaro broke up the last pin.
When did he get cut? Totally missed that.
Did he hit sheamus knee on the double splash?
I missed it too
Damn all heels tonight wow
They picked it up at the end and built up the drama well. ***.
Nicely done with the clock running out. Really dug that!
Incredible timing to pull that off
Good psychology the whole time, I really enjoy that.
I really like cesaeo and sheamus as a tag team.
Cesaro the king of great random tag teams.
We need to weigh this in for GWWE
Btw rocket league is a lot of fun to play.
That was a great, great match. Awesome 3 match series for these teams
We see a title change here?
I doubt it.
I mean I chose Alexa, but all heels have won so far tonight.
I picked Alexa but the way all the heels keep winning I don’t know now
Yeah me too. I want to see Alexa hold the title a little while longer.
Getting smoked on the picks
I am doing better then I thought, I am 3-1. I’m sure that’s about to change.
The only one I got wrong so far was Rollins.
From CahlumbusOhiooo
That Alexa popped elbow is gross every time. She is the best.
Brilliant lol
That was a great spot
Oh shit. That looked like it hurt.
Holy shit
What a neckbreaker.
This has been really fun… some nasty bumps
Good match but damn some of the bumps look sick
Really digging this match.
Best Alexa match ever?
Best I’ve seen, this is great
Easily Alexa’s best match.
Loved that match… intense and hard hitting and well structured.
Damn still eAtinh crap on pics lol
***3/4. Match of the night at this point.
Really enjoyed that match and keeps the story going.
That double knee makes me nervous every time she does it.
Scary but damn nice spot
That move on the concrete is a career-shortener for both.
Jesus they are on (great ball of) fire!
Busted nose for Alexa
Cool. Alexa retains, but we break the streak of heels winning.
Fun match, best Sasha match in a while
3-2 with my picks tonight.
Do you think they have to get clearance to use the MPAA trailer band at the front of Miz’s video?
Vince knows how to make deals, I’m sure he cleared it.
I really liked that they let Bliss fight back in that post-match stuff. usually the chicken shit heel has to just take it.
Nice to see Mike out of the dog house. Courtney and I’s favorite combo, The Miz and Mayrze. Axel knows how to dress, by the way.
Curtis Axel is a great Ryan Gosling cosplayer
Bo is the pits
Axel looks like he’s applying for a mortgage.
Bo looks like he was hired by a landlord who hasn’t gotten rent on time.
Curtis looks like the guy in your yearly compliance course examples that always makes the shady, dumb decision.
Miz looks like Spider-Man 3’s Emo Peter Parker
That is a deep cut sir, well done
His “I got half a haircut” look is really unbecoming
That’s pretty funny Brad lol
Nope, he’s not borrowing money with that suit. Those are some first class dig so he has on.
Do we get a Boogeyman apperance?
He’s always welcome.
Jeff update: hates Miz because of his hair, likes Ambrose.
Wants to know why Cass isn’t champion because he looks like a beast.
Loves Sasha.
PodBlast please. We need to keep the Machado fanbase engaged.
Lots of blood tonight.
I love the Miztourage
Perfectly fine match. Nothing remarkable.
Figured Miz would win to put over the Miztourage
Hey fellas joined late in the ppv but live now cuz I skipped the opener and most of this IC match. Thought Enzo/Cass forwarded their characters well, loved the tag, and the womens match showed they will likely produce a great SS match. Happy with the finish.
Welcome! Agreed on the women’s match
Match was fine. They were put in the death slot and the feud has run its course but they still went out and tried.
They used all the bells and whistles to fight past this has been done to death. Limb selling, Maryse with the rope break, and constant interference. Predictable, but performed pretty well.
Where do they go next with Miz? Balor? RAW is really shallow in terms of babyfaces.
Could be Balor. Wait, is he not on this show? How does that happen.
I guess his little feud with Samson was not worthy of the show.
Anyone else’s stream get real jumpy during that last match
My rankings so far:
Neville/Tozawa: **3/4
Rollins/Wyatt: **1/4
Cass/Enzo: *
Iron Man Tag: ***
Sasha/Alexa: ***3/4
Ambrose/Miz: **1/2
That’s about where I am if I had to put stars to it.
I’m safely at ***3/4 and may re-watch to see with everything (including post match), it could lightly touch ****. Most likely not, felt 3.75 was right on the money but it was damn good with little to ding it with.
Easily Alexa’s best match. She really stepped up her game tonight.
Looks like I’m the highest on the Bray/Rollins opener. I’ve got it at 3.25
They had a bunch of moving pieces for the death slot. Just don’t like how Miz is booked for cheap wins. Kid talks his ass off to put himself and the IC belt over and they book him like the Honky Tonk Man. Mike is better than that.
You mean Greatest IC Champion Honky Tonk Man.
Ducky, Ducky, Ducky, come on, we all know Bret Hart is the best there is, was and ever will be (lol)
Does Braun win? Or does Roman win?
I picked Reigns due to Reigns saying he was going to face the winner of Joe/Lesnar at SummerSlam.
Yeah me too and I really hope it’s Joe next match.
Roman… I think Brock v Roman at SS
Yeah I chose him as well.
I vote Roman.
Yeah that’s who I picked as well.
Roman. Would like to see Cena and him at SS and a Joe Lesnar rematch. I realize I say that before seeing how they work together
Wow
Jeff: “only the fifth time? There have been four other ambulance matches?”
Me: “they’ve only had FOUR ambulance matches?”
I’m trying to figure out what is the right amount of ambulance matches
So off the top of my head:
Ambrose/Wyatt
Shane/Kane
Ryback/Cena (last fall of 2 out of 3)
Reigns/Braun
There’s gotta be more than that right?
He needs his own twitter account for this.
He is heading in here now!
Braun wins for a rematch at Summerslam. It’s a bit of a bold prediction.
Reigns needed a foil. Credit to Strowman for giving him his first feud with any real sizzle.
I want to punch that guy in the Nats gear
Looks like Brock and Joe aren’t going long
I figured ten minutes and out.
I don’t expect them to
Finally, some excitement in this match.
I like how this feud has been knockdown dragout from the start
So much broken stuff.
Brian? Brian stroman?
Strowman my pain with his fingers
1 time
See, why does Cole have to literally scream after that awesome stage wall crash? This ain’t radio brother.
Reigns has gotten a lot better at his facial expressions.
Pretty cool way to end the match
Stop breaking stuff!
Lol! That was great!
Ha! Wow
A flash pin in an ambulance match!?
Creative finish. That was picking up until the end but felt it was disjointed at times. I’ll give it ***
“Samoan blood”
It runs hot, Alfred!
I can’t stop laughing. That finish was awesome.
So perfect.
I love how fast Braun just closed the doors – phenomenal.
Reigns forcibly driving Strowman to a Medical Facility?
Holy shit
What? No air bags on an ambulance?
I hope Braun rips through the carnage and still comes after him.
This backstage stuff is dumb.
These marks on the phones are just killing this drama
Too staged and overproduced. The camera shot of Reigns looking in the side mirror was overkill as well.
Well they had to get Braun out, i figured that’s when they did. But yeah, that camera angle was so overproduced.
Kurts face lol
Aghast Angle
He looks so much like a dad whose teenage kids have screwed something up
His wife is away on business and left him in charge
The nwo made him do it
Homage to Warrior in the casket, complete with crowbar
I really hope that Joe/Brock isn’t a squash
Why is this match happening?
Trying to make it seem non produced… emergency match
I like this… old school just throwing a filler match out to eat time.
Braun should come out and destory these guys
Slater looks like he has a bad run in with the tanning booth.
…….I’m legit not sure which one is Heath Slater
Fire engine match at summerslam
Attempted murder is a little too far. Although this opens the door to the first “emergency surgery” match. Or does that exist already?
I mean, where are the police right? We’re using city resources for this jaws of life nonsense, aren’t police called when the fire department is?
911 call is police, fire, and ambulance.
Although I laughed because Angle said “Someone call 911” and then you heard someone else say “No don’t”. Guessing they didn’t want the fans calling.
I’m enjoying this. We haven’t had anything attitudey like this in a long time. Feels fresh and different.
So no one called the cops for the attempted murder lol?
Angle’s face was amazing when he ran in.
Worst emergency crew ever
They are terrible, lol.
Maybe he wasn’t fully rehabbed from the elbow as this just writes him back out for a bit?
They missed the stretcher and dropped him on the concrete : (
The blood is a nice touch
He might get ptsd if they put him in another ambulance
Watch his knee!
COME ON GUYS!
Bloodiest PPV in ten years.
The longer this takes the more it makes me think Joe/Lesnar is only going 5 mins, what bs
I’m okay with that if they whole match is a five minute sprint like WM33.
Much better that than fifteen minutes of German suplexes.
Or Joe just putting Brock in a submission.
Joe winning the title would be a waste of whatever rub comes from someone finally beating Brock for the title after 3 years of no full timer actually slaying the monster.
It’d be like taking the one bullet you get and firing it straight up into the air.
How so? It’d make a star out of Joe. The rumors is saying that Roman will beat Brock for the title. Does he need anymore accolades.
Joe’s from the same generation as Cena, Bryan and Batista. With all the young guys they want to build up for the future, the old guy isn’t the best choice.
New in most WWE fans eyes. Who would you do it with?
Roman, Rollins, Ambrose, Wyatt, Jinder, Owens, Sami, etc.
Anybody with a full career ahead of them.
Not the guy pushing 40.
Braun is Jason from Friday the 13th
Felt like a face turn.
And a heel turn for roman? I mean vehicular homicide should make you a heel haha.
Yeah, it kinda did.
Wait is there any angle of Reigns actually driving – or just getting out
Hell of a sell job by Braun on that slo-mo replay.
Strowman’s worst to first turn around is amazing and inspirational.
It really is. There might be hope for Dana Brooke.
I’m amazed she screwed up the preshow interview.
Sadly, I’m not.
She is inept when it comes to pro wrestling.
What did she do? I missed the preshow
Botched three or four fed lines atvyhd roundtable.
Haha damn. I may have to go out of my way to check it out.
https://twitter.com/Rawnzilla/status/884241682199437314
Oh no, Brock is gonna squash Joe isn’t he.
Maybe, but now with the Network they could go a little over I guess
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/815ad0ad60fdb6d102189eb5f49a334b6baa57e946322b89aa5d7673b257a893.jpg
Please use that for tomorrow’s discussion thread
My wife just asked if this was a storyline or real. God bless her.
I mean, everything up to Braun getting out looked hokey as hell, but he was really beat up. Unless he was in there punching himself in the mouth, i don’t know.
It was some pretty cool visuals.
They should have known reigns would steal the ambulance. They made an entire nickolas cage movie about him.
Joe makes me cheer aloud lately
Damn
Well those “Brock squashes Joe” fears can be put away
Never understood that feeling. They’ve built up Joe far too much for that to happen.
That hasn’t stopped them from farting on people’s pushes before. This is a dumb company built on moments.
I’m glad they let Joe get the edge early and built from there. That definitely paid off the build they had going in.
Your first paragraph is true, sadly. It pretty much is what happened to Bayley.
I have the volume down did the bell ring?
Nope.
Figured, thanks
No problem.
Great start so far.
The hole from Braun is in the shape of Utah
Hmm. Interesting
I enjoyed that. Kept Joe as a beast.
Loved it… big bombs and a hard hitting fight
Perfect.
I’m loving how Lesnar just starts at the last six minutes of a Great Match now.
Brock has the best under 10 min matches
That was a very good match.
Overall, it was a good show.
Grading on the Brock curve, bonus points for breaking out the sidewalk slam in addition to the requisite Germans/F5. Joe worked hard as hell to make it more than a ho-hum Brock match, and succeeded.
A little abrupt ending there, but it’s a Brock match. Pretty fine.
Honestly, still thought Alexa vs. Sasha was match of the night.
Brock is just gonna keep coming back every few months and have epic matches. Sounds good to me.
I only wish they could have came up with a better transition at the end from “i’ve got you nearly choked out” into “I’m fine, here’s a pop-up F5 that you can’t kick out of”.
It’s brock though. So amyone else that would be weird. But Brock is brock
Well, that’s why it is a “wish”. It’s my vision of what would have made a better match, versus Vince/WE MAKE MOMENTS.
I did like Brock still selling the neck/choke after, Brock was great here – an underrated seller.
I’m tired of Lesnar, I don’t care who they put the belt on, get it off him at summerslam
This Rosenberg guy sucks.
They put up a MSG show from 1973 now on the Network.
Good PPV, nothing stunk and some really good stuff as well.
Cass not exactly setting the world on fire here.
Non-scientific, non-star ratings:
Brock-Joe: Good
Roman-Braun: Good
Miz-Dean: Fine
Alexa-Sasha: Great
Sheasaro-Hardyz: Good
Enzo-Cass: Fine
Bray-Rollins: Fine
Neville-Tozawa: Good
https://twitter.com/heathslateromrb/status/884247524982366208
Sasha shit talking Alexa is everything
What’s she saying?
Sasha shooting here
Hey guys, I tuned in for Brock-Joe and it was good, but not as good as I wanted it to be.
Then, on the encouragement of Steve Wille, I watched the post match stuff with Braun.
It was really funny and stupid and I think I am supposed to take it seriously but it was so bad, dude.
OK, see you all for the next Brock match!
Thinking more on the main, there are a lot of things I liked:
– Joe never appearing scared or intimidated
– Joe jumping Brock before the bell (complete continuation of the TV build)
– Brock selling
– Joe blocking Brock’s knees (the announcers did not note this)
Dumb things I nitpick on:
– The entire match is a struggle that looks like a fight until they do the first clutch spot and Brock breaks when he runs Joe into the turnbuckle so his head bounces off and then he does wacky I’m dazed selling.
– One pop-up F5 (that the announcers say Joe got caught with, even though he was grinding Brock into the ground with his submission. It wasn’t like he let up) does Joe in – a kickout there sends the crowd into a frenzy even though we’ve seen Brock dish multiple ones before.
Also, i maybe liked this more than the Goldberg match when i think deeper on the pieces here (selling, psychology, callbacks, liking Joe more than washed up Goldberg).
And I think finisher spamming in general hurts this, but even if you center it on Brock matches you can see how this has been watered down like the F-5 of late.
and, this is a rehash of something on twitter Chad and I talked through, my complaint is less on it taking one as it is the transition/pop-up. Have no issue trying to bring back the strength of that move – BUT Brock is really responsible for this, not just a wrestling-wide thing.
I meant AA here – tried to compare F-5 to AA in a spectacularly poor manner.
Dug tonight’s PPV. Loved what Brock & Joe did, just a big fight throwing big shots at each other. I don’t think it’s a one and done. Also dug the Ambulance Match and the aftermath. I think we get the 4 way for Summerslam wiith Brock/Roman/Joe/Braun. The Ironman and Womens Matches were very good too.
What did you like about the aftermath of the ambulance match?