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So is Brad right? We getting a wellness pop for Corbin? I am guessing Cena is definitely going over at SS now.
It’s very well possible that he got pinched. Doesn’t necessarily have to be an enhancement. Remember Roman got popped for Adderall.
That has to be the case. Otherwise, I don’t understand the thought process behind yanking the briefcase off of him so quickly. Unless they finally figured out that he isn’t that good. Then again, look at who the WWE Champ is.
Yeah it makes zero sense otherwise. But even then why do they have to take the case away? He would only be gone 30 days?
It might be punishment for actively engaging Meltzer too.
That seems more likely to me. With the suspension they could have kept the case on him.
I didn’t think of that.
I can’t imagine that is steeper than getting popped for 30 days, but i don’t think it helped.
Just finished Fall Brawl 97 in my WCW watch… that destruction of the Horsemen was really well done.
https://twitter.com/KennyDucey/status/897654219766988801
He has been on fire as of late. Sneaky big season.
And he’s working on his mechanics behind the plate every day too. Luckily his manager is one of the best defensive catchers ever.
And Tony Pena too!
Meanwhile, in AAA:
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https://www.facebook.com/william.helmick.14/videos/351871761900343/
https://twitter.com/RicWilson/status/897514438517043200
http://curbyourvideo.com/?v=xcR-2Jftcu4&s=110&c=117&e=127
Stevie Richards lingered around WCW longer than I remembered. Still there the night after Fall Brawl.
He was squashed by DDP and also Tenay basically called ECW an indy.
I was never clear on why he got released. Wiki says he failed a physical, but… so? That could mean a lot of things. Makes me think he was not well-liked backstage to get the pink slip so fast.
Didn’t it have to do with his neck? I thought he talked about it when we interviewed him. He left ECW like an asshole and then was forced to go crawling back.
Sounds right, but I still don’t understand why they outright fire the guy after just signing him in August. He probably would’ve been playing the Sign Guy/Lodi role as Raven’s toadie, which isn’t exactly physically demanding. Would’ve been a logical use for him until he was healthy enough to take bumps again.
I know. “Because WCW.”
Stevie and The Meanie always seemed so odd to me in WCW but a better fit in WWF, although neither run was great for them. I think it is because WCW had so many jacked up guys, they were more obvious misfits. Compare them to an Ice Train and it’s like, why are these guys in the same ring. WWF was so much more about angles and they had a certain amount of charisma as a duo. That is all.
For you Mario Kart fans:
https://t.co/nohpFZ6WhF
Thank goodness for JT and Scott you guys aren’t doing Boston house shows. September 86 – Atlas vs Arcidi. Just putrid. Putski-baron level bad.
August 86.
Pretty cool Outsiders vs. Mortis & Wrath on this Nitro too.
Great heat on Hennig… wearing Flair’s robe and celebrating with the NWO.
First time that I have noticed Hall does the “down there, down here” variation of what DX would end up doing.
Hennig vs. Mongo was really fun, huge spot for Mongo too and the match is well done with Mongo doing all he can on his busted leg and Hennig picking him apart and winning the US title, putting more gold in the NWO.
Update on Flair
http://wrestlingnews.co/wwe-news/ric-flairs-fiance-wendy-barlow-clears-up-erroneous-reports-what-caused-flair-to-be-hospitalized/
Blocked here – can you quickly summarize?
Still in critical condition…multiple organ failures
Jesus that isn’t good at all.
https://twitter.com/sheridanhoops/status/897906465960316929
Are there any comic books people are excited about that came out today? I am looking at the pull post and not seeing anything that I feel like picking up. I get paid biweekly so i will be getting the books from last week that i wanted but nothing this week.
I’ve seen the boys pretty excited about the new Metal arc by DC
https://twitter.com/jared_carrabis/status/897957896738054144
Lol awesome
’06 & ’13 Memphis Grizzlies added to NBA 2K18.
Anybody have info on these teams? Seems kinda random to me they would be put in as historical teams.
2013 was the year they made the Western Conference Finals. I’m guessing ’06 is maybe the best team when Pau was still there.
Also a young Kyle Lowry
’06 really doesn’t stick out to me – but ’13 was when they beat the #1 seed Spurs
Judge just hit one out that might have landed in D’Amato’s kitchen.
Does anyone other than me think there’s a chance that all the titles in NXT will change on Saturday? I know it won’t happen but I could definitely see at least Roode and Asuka losing.
I feel like that’s the case every Takeover special.
Yeah which means they’ll all retain just because I said that!
Think Roode retains and Asuka drops.
A testament to good storytelling!
Time to rewatch the Cruiserweight Battle Royal from Slamboree 1998.
What an awesome moment… it still hold up?
Absolutely it does.
https://twitter.com/KennyDucey/status/897976537508700161
Hey – here’s our amazon link to preorder the upcoming Unreleased DVD set. Help out PTBN!
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Watching Bragging Rights 09. The commentary is perhaps the worst I’ve ever heard. The team of Cole, King and Grisham should be murdered.
It just hit me that this Iron Man Match is literally the rest of my night.
They’re talking about overtime 5 minutes in!
Grisham at the 7 minute mark:
Is it too earky for John Cena to start thinking defence?
Hahah, tremendous.
Why does an RKO beat Cena after 9 minutes but everybother match he takes one after a 25 minute beating but kucks out?
A little extra stank on this one.
Minutes 25-28 Randy attempts to decipher a pyro board.
Minute 29. Randy throws a tantrum when he discovers Cena isn’t murdered.
Someone has to tell Randy you can’t go from trying to blow a guy up RIGHT INTO european upppercuts.
Guy in an Edmonton Oilers jersey in the front row. In 2009. That’s a REAL fan.
Lawler: It’s blessing this is the last time these two will fight one another.
Biggest lie in wrestling?
It’s anything goes, falls count anywhere right. Orton up 4-3 with 27 left right. Why doesn’t Orton get in his car and get the fuck out of town?
Cena gets pinned after a ddt to the floor. Good tging he learned how to recover from that by next year’s summerslam.
I need to rethink Randy Orton’s placement on the 100 GWWE list. His 09 and this year are in the running for worst individual years ever.
20 left and now Orton is watching the clock more than I am.
Cena’s fine now by the way. 40 minute beating and he’s BACK. (JACK)
Grisham: It’s gonna be hard for Orton to play defence for 15 minutes.
FULL CIRCLE!
I chose to watch this instead of catching up on Shameless.
Cole: (10 mins left cena down by 1) Cena acting like time isn’t an issue.
Sums up the match. And John Cena really.
NOW CENA’S RUNNING AROUND!
STOP THREATENING US WITH AN OVERTIME!
Cole: When was the last time we saw John Cena use a table?
It was literally 3 minutes ago when he put Orton through the announcer’s desk.
Michael “Goldfish” Cole.
Cena kicking out of rkos at 58 minutes. Weird one put one away at 10.
Orton now having a Backlundian seizure.
Why would Orton tap with 6 seconds left???
Fuck this match.
Because he’s the heel? Was he supposed to valiantly hang on until time?
He was watching the clock. We constantly get guys in submission holds for minutes at a time. Heels and faces.
The point was that the dastardly heel was vanquished in the end. Sure he was watching the clock, he was trying desperately to hang on but he couldn’t, he was in too much pain from the damn STF. If it was Cena he would have held on, he’s the hero. Orton wasn’t, he was the bad guy and the bad guy couldn’t hack it when it mattered most, he quit.
I understand the basic concept of heels and faces. But based on the match and what they did to one another it made no sense. Tack on to that that Orton’s character was obsessed with the title and the tap out there was a weak ending
Also in many of their previous matches Orton lasted much longer in the hold. You can’t harp on the fact that this is part of a larger story and ignote that. It’s lazy. For an “epic final confrontation” they could have done better.
I don’t think it’s inconsistent with Orton or the series at all. Take I Quit. Orton tortured him the whole match, but when Cena finally broke free and got the STF on Orton tapped like a baby pretty quickly. He was a coward. He’d prey on people using Legacy and by handcuffing Cena, etc., but at heart he was a coward who could dish it out but couldn’t take it.
Of course he lasted longer in the hold earlier in the match, it was earlier and he was less damaged and less tired. There is a huge difference between being in someone’s submission hold in the 5th minute, the 30th and the 59th in an Ironman match. Early you tap quickly to avoid early damage. In the middle you have to try to hang on as falls become more valuable. At the end you’re exhausted and it’s all you can do to hold on. But Orton couldn’t hold on. Right at the one crucial moment, all he had to do was hold on a bit longer but he couldn’t take it. He loses. Good beats evil, etc. and etc.
Sorry it’s poor, lame cliched storytelling. He was valliantly kicking out of things minutes before. Earlier in the match I get him tapping out fast. Made sense in the context of the match. In the Summerslam match and the Hell In a Cell he was in it much longer. Breaking Point was also lame. One guy getting beaten to near death who will never give up the other taps in a second. Yeah it fits the tired heel/face dynamic but it destroys the drama of that, and future matches.
Until they decide it doesn’t and change their storytelling without any sort of justification. I wonder how many people that exact style of writing has pushed away from the product.
If you weren’t into the idea of the clear, cartoony face/heel dynamic then it makes sense you hated it. I liked it. Orton was basically a cartoon villain by that point, making his goofy alien faces and trying to blow Cena up with his ACME big red button, and Cena is Cena, so I thought the tone of the matches and finishes worked with it. Kind of like a Hogan feud, except Orton actually got some wins because it was 2009.
I hear that. I just want consistency. Like Ted Dibiase didn’t kick out of 8 leg drops (valliantly) then tap out to Hogan. In that cartoon world the basic blocks of writing were still there.
Villain is coward. Villain cheats to get ahead. Villain gets beat.
This to me was more.
Villain is tougher than hero. Villain takes 80 percent of the match. Villain attempts homicide. Villain beats hero with rko in at ten minute mark but hero kicks out of same move after a 40 minute beating. Villain gets trapped in hold he’s been in a hundred times and can’t hold on for 6 more seconds. (With the crowd counting down)
I can live with the face/heel dynamics so long as they’re written well. I could live with it being a cartoon. (Which it clearly was. That red button was obscene) I just can’t stand the poor construction of the story.
I do agree with you that the commentary was fucking atrocious. This is when Cole started to get REALLY bad.
Yeah he’s awful. Actively makes matches worse.
I’ve been watching these ppvs back to back. This is the 4th Cena/Orton match for me this week. Just a point of reference.
Of all the weapons around the ring Orton decides the microphone is most deadly.
GOD DAMNIT THEY STOPPED THE CLOCK TO CHECK ON CENA’S CUT!!!
Orton: Stomps head on steps.
Cole: No absence of malice.
Just like last month. Nust like the month before
Michael “Consistent” Cole.
Cole: Randy Orton, some have called him the devil incarnate of Raw.
WHO??
Some.
Phil Some?
20 minutes in and I’m not in a blinding rage yet.
Now that I think about it though. We have 40 minutes left and they’re already both dead from finishers.
On pace for a 9-9 final!
I kind of wish I had owned that Santino Ferrari shirt.
The biggest reason we went back to 1985…
Will the Cardinals ever not lay down for the Red Sox? What a bunch of cucked up bitches.
Did Yadi get tossed?
No idea, they blew a two run lead in the ninth.
Right. Ump called a balk on the Cards pitcher and Yadi lost his shit. I saw Matheny getting tossed.
I wish I had more time… I have never really dove into the collections on the Network… some really cool stuff in there.