Welcome to today’s daily discussion thread. We’ve got a bunch cookin’ post 4th of July (be sure to check out JT’s Nathan’s Hot Dog Eating contest piece), including podcast #1,250 on the Place to Be Nation Wrestling feed. Listen, comment, and talk about whatever here!
Daily Discussion Thread – 7/5/17
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How’s everyone feeling about Great Balls of Fire. I think it looks like a pretty great show on paper.
The show on paper looks great. Really looking forward to Sunday.
Plus WINGS!
YES!
It’s the first PPV since WrestleMania that I’ve actually looked forward to. Joe vs Brock has been very well built and gotten me excited. I’ve said this before, RAW is doing some of the things that made Smackdown successful early on in the brand split. There is finally clear direction up and down the card.
The only thing I don’t care about is Rollins vs. Wyatt. Rest of the card should be good though.
Show should be good. The build has been fantastic I think
I will watch Brock-Joe on Monday probably.
Cant wait for it, I think every match will deliver. I am hoping that Joe and Brock is great and not a squash
Really like the card!
I vowed to quit recapping PPVs after the last one, but I think I’m all in on this one. The card seems pretty good.
I’ll give it another go…
You have to recap it now. We added comments!
OOH! Comments are… you know what, that BoD has really scarred me, man…
It’ll be a good piece to facilitate discussion the following morning, versus the live discussion as the show goes on. Our comments are great. We have the best comments. It’ll be fine.
NXT #400 is tonight – Roode vs. Strong. I’m checking out the Last Woman Standing Match from last week right now and will share some thoughts.
Very interested in your thoughts on LWS because I thought it was very good and the best NXT women’s match since Bayley-Sasha Iron Woman Match in 2015.
I like that they start with a lot of aggression given the stakes and that helps a little when they go into the standard LMS trope of counting for everything fairly early. But at least the moves are count-worthy, which cannot always be said when they’ve done matches like this. I thought the production was really good here too, good camera angles to make stuff look stiffer. I think it can certainly be said that Nikki’s offense was a lot more interesting, starting with the reverse DDT on the apron and that snap back suplex on the chairs after taking a hair toss off the turnbuckle. I also liked that Nikki wouldn’t just sit around during the count; even after the four swinging fishermen busters (Cross rhodes), she’s going for the belt, not convinced she’ll get 10. Asuka does take a lot of damage here, which felt off – and the powerbomb onto the chairs was really sick because Nikki just dropped her so she couldn’t bump normally. But it’s a weird transition there, Asuka is up at 9 and then just takes over, leading to a very lame hip attack off the ramp – which seemed like such a tame response to all the carnage. And then from there its more Nikki, like the rail assisted swinging neckbreaker to the mat; she was just much more creative in this match. I liked the finish setup as you don’t think about the announcer’s table with how they worked it, and Asuka barely survives. ****
I’d agree with you on it being the best since the Iron Woman match. I don’t typically watch their TV so i may be discounting something, but certainly liked it more than the Bayley matches.
Finishing up RAW. Liked Miz-Heath Slater a lot. Here’s an interesting question for all of you. Is Miz the Wrestler of the Year so far? Looking at the WWE calendar year, so since WrestleMania?
He is certainly in the running. Who would be his competition? Braun? Roman? AJ?
For WWE maybe but AJ, Neville, and Reigns are all ahead of him in my book.
Yeah I assumed this was WWE only. Good call on Neville.
At first glance the pool would be Neville, Reigns, AJ, Miz, Braun for me.
Can I say Breezango has been one of my favorite acts on Smackdown lately. Last night’s skit was great.
Brand Split War
Week 50 Winner: RAW
Smackdown 26 RAW 24
MOTW: Miz vs Heath Slater
Backspin on fire right now…DJ mix of all late 90s stuff
Rollins v Brock currently planned for Survivor Series. Original plan of Finn v Brock scrapped.
Meh… their first go around was kind of blah.
Possibly non-title?
I think Reigns is beating Brock for the gold at SummerSlam and holding it until facing Cena at Mania.
Yeah same, so makes the Rollins announcement odd. Man no one wants to see that build again.
I’m curious to see how they get there. I feel like Rollins is kinda lost in the shuffle right now.
Crazy
http://tmz.me/S4C094V
I hope Finn Balor gets his Universal Title shot soon. I imagine he will.
This Yankee season is falling apart even more quickly than 2015 did.
Piper’s Pit and a Razon Ramon collection will be added to the Network this month.
Nice, those should both be pretty fun
Aaron Judge is absurd!
He is the #2 overall player in my league (proud owner at $1!). He’s the reason i’m in the hunt for the title right now.
Looking at all the Luger pics the last feel days, I would absolutely cheer those segments more now than I did as a kid.
For sure… I really think the Express was ahead of its time!
Continuing my June 2000 watching and really liked Hardcore Holly vs HHH from Heat. HHH in 2000 did well in working to his opponents strengths as far as being a base for Taka or the stiffness of Holly.
Yes! I loved that match at the time… the peak of Holly as a underground darling… Angle broke his arm shortly after and that was that.
I’m two weeks out from Fully Loaded.
Interesting, I devoured 2000 WWF but I must have been home from college and didn’t have access. I have never seen this. I need to get that sorted out.
Heat had some fun stuff hidden in there during that 98-00 stretch.
Without hyperbole one of the dumbest things I’ve read all week.
http://www.lordsofpain.net/columns/mrtito/MR_TITO_STRIKES_BACK_-_WWE_Great_Balls_of_Fire_Pay_Per_View_Predictions_New_Japan_More.html
And my review of EVOLVE 86
http://blogofdoom.com/index.php/2017/07/05/evolve-86/
I read the first line and checked out. Also, the black background was overpowering. I would rather hear from Tito Santana in 2017 than Mr. Tito.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBlsW2hLKI0
PTBN needs to sign Tito Santana to a podcast!
I wish. The Titans crew did interview him though!
http://placetobenation.com/titans-of-wrestling-36-interview-with-tito-santana/
I’m telling you, Arriba Nation! With Tito Santana and his co-host, ME! Money, JT. It’s money.
Give him a call and the gig is yours! ARRIBA!
Hmm…
Once JJ Dillon got a pod… [insert gif of Fonzi jumping over a shark]
The podcast that finally broke me. I almost retired on the spot.
When we do our 30 for 30, that will be a big dramatic part with piano music playing underneath for sure.
Can feature me driving in my car listening to Nirvana and glaring into traffic as b-roll.
Which would be historically accurate.
That black background is a big reason why I went white/clean/clear for PTBN four + years ago. I hate that.
Black background reminds me of the early 2000’s
Any update on the ECW Sci Fi run coming to The Network?
I hope they add them, very underrated stuff some hidden gems.
For our conversation on WWE Wrestler of the Year below, Joe from VOW mentioned Pete Dunne too.
He’s been great.
For the worst WWE Wrestler, I’m nominating Dar.
https://twitter.com/TSNHockey/status/882678030778454016
In this PodBLAST Aaron George and Ben Morse break down whether Christian belongs in the pantheon of the 100 Greatest WWE Wrestlers of all time. Saddle up and get blasted!!
http://placetobe.podbean.com/e/ptbn’s-greatest-wwe-wrestler-ever-pod-blast-series-christian/
PodBlastâ„¢ time everybody!
Watching the 3/19/90 MSG house show. After opening with Hercules vs. Black Bart they followed with Koko B. Ware vs. Frenchy Martin. Good lord.
I watched that show a few weeks ago. The vast majority of it is hot garbage.
Frenchy Martin in 1990 yikes
I remember that one from 24/7… rough going
I watched Cody/Okada with the Japanese commentary (i had initially fallen asleep until the last 6 minutes – which coincidentally were the best, so that was an odd revelation on re-watch). Here are my notes:
I liked the build and atmosphere for this and because of the built-in drama of Cody being ROH champ (and his status in general) + this being on US soil, there was heightened talk of a title change. So that was really cool “pit of the stomach” thing in watching to see how things played out. Okada gets a monster pop!
The match, for me, completely kicks into top NJPW gear when Okada starts laying in the forearms and does that extended stomp in the corner. Prior to that, there was a lot I wasn’t particularly feeling. Cody’s mistiming around the guardrail dive, where he goes back to Okada on the apron and then walks himself back out and climbs over the rail is quite possibly the WORST sequence I have ever seen in a pro wrestling match. His work on top with Okada was uninspiring and Okada has to sell like death after taking a crappy front suplex. And then Okada has to kick out at two after being kicked in the freakin’ arm. Way too many cover attempts in this one, which completely stilt the drama and flow. To counter some of those negatives, the power slam by Cody was nice, and the top rope arm drag was well done. I liked the idea of countering the disaster kick into a flapjack, but it looked like shit. Inverted neck breaker into a Rainmaker pose is reversed into a leg lock that had no setup by Cody. Good selling by Okada, but there was just nothing that built to this being meaningful.
Back to the good stretch now, Okada ratchets things up with the drop kick and tombstone and then moves into the short arm lariats with the wrist grab (the Japanese announcers do call these Rainmakers fwiw, but i feel like the final one is the REAL one here). Now comes the Omega drama, which does heighten watching live. Good sequences set up each guy stealing each other’s finish – it’s like WWF 2001! So that US trope happens. Okada’s counter with the knee into his own cross rhodes is sweet, and it looks like Cody has no idea which way he’s going to be twisted and it comes off stiff. They go from these big spots to a weird sequence where Okada kind of breaks cross rhodes so Cody just picks him up into a reverse DDT driver of sorts that gets NO reaction on the kickout (and again with the kickouts and ruining the flow). They should done that before the finisher stealing.
Another counter sequence is mistimed so Okada seemingly shoot picks up Cody and does a spinning jumping tombstone -> Rain Maker – and done. I rarely criticize a match for starting slow (because long matches have to start somewhere), but the work in that part was just dreadful. Good last 6 minutes or so. ***
I can get behind Brad ReviewBlast.
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/wwe-2k18-devs-detail-revamped-story-upgraded-visua/1100-6451358/
Listening to the pod blast with Christian, I think he was going to get the title from
Edge that summer if edge hadn’t retired. There was vague hints of him wanting the title. I think he is 50-60 imo that came in to his own after the brand extension.
He was going through Schroedinger’s Heel Turn for a while there. Sad, since I thought he was a better wrestler as a face than he was as a heel.
I do agree after he cut his hair, that he maybe a bigger star imo.
jeff cobb in bola
trevor lee too
And Flash Morgan Webster
Gargano coming back soon. Good; I was starting to wonder if he was still supposed to be in a coma or something.
The emotional scars run deep
Roode and Strong are having one hell of a match.
Awesome fucking match!
Back to back weeks of great nxt main events
Everyone stop what their doing and watch Roode vs Strong from NXT tonight, it’s that damn good
Going to watch the Bruiser Brody documentary on the Highspots Network. Anyone seen that yet?
How are you liking the ol’ Highspots?
I feel like we should be watching something. I’m terrible at making suggestions.
This is where a random content generator would be amazing on the Network.
I would love to but have to get some work done. I would be down for a watch on Friday?
If anyone else is down, go for it!
Friday might not be bad. I am going to start up Great American Bash 1990 in five minutes if anyone wants to join along though.
Make that at 9:30
I may be able to hop in later
What happened?
Blog of Doom centrism
Natch. We will do something here on Friday night.
Bad habits are hard to break, ol’ buddy, ol’ pal.
Ha, is what it is… not a competition, just wanted to a place to house our larger community… everything takes time.
It’ll get there.
Appreciate the participation so far my man.
I’m trying to hang out here a little bit more. I like a higher percentage of PTBN peeps than I do the other place. Just, like I said, habits.
I think Sunday for great balls of fire should have a good amount of people on here. Also with bigger sports events like next weeks all star game and home run derby should be good.
Agreed, always takes a while to build up the camaraderie and habit of checking in and talking. Long haul… I know I am loving this so far.
Seems like things are growing day-by-day, which is good. Plus, the holiday week keeps people away from a computer.
I’ve been waiting for PTBN to adopt Disqus for a while now.
Yeah glad we made the move, been good so far for sure.
Doing a quiz for school so decided to turn this on a bit late, but man match # 2 – IRS vs. Sheik
I will spread the word!
I’m in for another Friday live watch
GAB 1992!
Will put it up to a poll Friday!
Hey guys, Joseph is leading a live watch of GAB 90 at 930pm ET if anyone wants to join!
I like that this is how you spread the word.
I did it in other places too!
Very good Match with Bobby Roode vs Roderick Strong for the NXT Title.
Between Nakamura, Ohno, Itami, and now Strong, Roode has had some good title defenses
Feud of the year continues as Cody vs. Paul takes a dramatic turn in Big Brother.
Finished S3 of Shameless… what an intense finale. Really love that show.