Welcome to Thursday! Come hang with us to chat the week in wrestling, baseball, NFL (training camp is getting under way) and anything else on your mind!
Ioan continues his look at the G1 Climax with a recap of Day Eight! Also, be sure to catch up on a busy day in audio content:
What’s the happs today gentlemen?
Up for some GWWE talk? How about Ric Flair?
i have it downloaded and will be listening soon. He will be 40-50 for me. If this was NWA/WCW he would easily be top 3. His highs are great, 92 rumble and his 1993 RAW match with Mr.Perfect. I enjoyed his feud with Triple H and being in the Ole Anderson run with Evolution. I also enjoyed his retirement run, from the promo that new years raw with McMahon to the HBK Match. He was middling at some points as well, his weird Carlito feud and I didnt enjoy his Mick Foley feud. That was meh imo.
I think the Foley feud suffered from the ridiculous Melina stuff. Which, if you read Foley’s book, Foley thought would be the greatest angle of his career.
His ’92 run alone gets him in.
– Rumble match
– vs Savage at WM VIII
– regaining the belt from Savage
– dropping the belt to Bret
All are **** or better
Factor in his Evolution run, match with Taker at WM 18 and his farewell against Shawn.
He’s somewhere in the 60s for me.
Yeah he is certainly a lock. Just depends how high he can climb. Lots of good stuff but also he stuck around quite a while in the 2000s and had loads of nothingness on TV and some PPV as well.
I LOVE his two match run with HHH in late 05. The cage match at Taboo Tuesday and the Last Man Standing at Survivor Series were both excellent. Greg and I spoke at length about them in the podblast.
Those are two of my favorite Flair Matches.
Right now I have Flair 25-30 ish but that could change as I delve into more old guys and revise a bit deeper. His 91-92 run is sooooooo strong though.
Yep, I just revisited the Flair/Shawn vs. Bret/Macho match, which apparently gets shat on in some online circles, but I still love it. Just so much fun.
I am very low on his 2000s run, but his 91-93 is so amazing that it cancels out. Plus, I did love the Taker match, the Shawn retirement match and a handful of other matches during the Evolution years.
He definitely gets good marks for WM20… that is a great match and he is a big part of why.
Here’s our ‘Blast on it: https://placetobe.podbean.com/e/ptbn%E2%80%99s-greatest-wwe-wrestler-ever-pod-blast-series-ric-flair/
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3/5/01 Raw on while sorting laundry…Heyman has arrived!
Was a pretty great moment for sure, surreal when it happened.
Heyman already had some great lines throughout..it’s an instant shot in the arm from Lawler and immediately gives a fresher feel.
Sounded like King had quit at the previous week’s SD taping bc Heyman mentioned it right off the bat that that was when it happened.
Someone uploaded every Superstars from 91 and 92. Could provide some help with early 90s guys for GWWE.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0dHPOKOwf1eDka1MHBuDpDbCTr27hmBZ
Oh sweet!
As of last night I’m two weeks out from Mania. Real good build. They never mention the venue for Mania, just that it’s in LA. Also, I guess Costas was a lock for the instant replay stuff until the week of Mania. Word on the street is that he pulled out because he didn’t approve of the Slaughter stuff.
I watched a lot of these on the old WWE.com Legacy site. I believe they had from late 1990 through late 1992 on there.
There’s also partial playlists for Wrestling Challenge 90-93, WCW Saturday Night ’92 & Worldwide 94 on the same channel
Hey guys, just finished this morning’s G1 show, great show with Okada/Kojima being the highlight, was cool to see Okada play a douchebag.
For you guys planning on going to the Rumble in Philly, What do you suggest is the best route for tickets? Go thru the arena’s site (which is working like cheap for me but haven’t tried on a computer yet) or try my luck on Stub hub?
http://www.fightful.com/what-wwe-announces-wrestlemania-attendance-vs-paid-attendance
Speaking of Ric Flair GWWE conversations, here’s Aaron and me talking about Ric and his placement on the list! https://placetobe.podbean.com/e/ptbn%E2%80%99s-greatest-wwe-wrestler-ever-pod-blast-series-ric-flair/
Rumblings that there will be another superstar shake-up after SummerSlam.
They should have never done it the first time.
Agree. The only thing it benefited was the women’s divisions.
I maintain the idea was good, but the execution not so much.
Firing up the 1/5/91 Superstars as background noise at work.
The weird slightly off version of Warrior’s theme as the theme of the show is odd.
I always kind of liked Honky on commentary during this run, kind of an overlooked solid team with Vince, Honky and Piper.
Yeah they were a fun trio. HTM’s last show is the Saturday of the Rumble.
Yeah he was supposed to be in the Rumble but quit that week I believe.
These must have been ripped from the WWE.com Legacy because the “WWF”s are cut out. There is also the WWE watermark logo in the corner.
Yup. Also the event centers are just PPV focused and not upcoming house shows for a specific market.
Vince’s crush on the Warlord is fun to listen to.
Yeah he is already pushing the Bulldog/Warlord feud here.
That feud produced a more than decent match at Wrestlemania.
And another pretty good one at TTiT… they basically feud all year… on opposite sides of teams at SS and SurSer too.
Wow totally forgot Honky was doing commentary at the time.
15 min in and the Rumble hype is focused and great already. All commentary and promos geared right to it, everyone focused on the match.
What I loved about old Rumble hype is they acted like anyone could win. You could be watching a Virgil match and they would be like ” Virgil is really looking forward to the Royal Rumble. What a feather in his cap if he can get the luck of the draw at The Rumble.”
This time is interesting too because it’s when Vince brought Filippelli in to do production work. John was known for using darker graphics and backdrops. It shows.
Yeah but Warrior in the intro shooting lasers out of his eyes surrounded by lighting bolts as he’s holding the WWF title is one of the most Warrior things ever.
I had on Summerslam 88 last night and for some reason are promoting a Boxing Match in November that year.
Titan Sports tried crossing over to promote boxing.
Ah ok. Makes sense. Learned something new.
Sugar Ray Leonard was mainstream at the time, but the PPV flopped and Titan lost a shit load of money.
Yeah he was pretty big at the time.
There’s an episode of PTW with Gorilla and Bobby at SRL’s gym with him a few weeks before the fight.
Vince probably wanted to have a strong 4Q between this fight and Survivor Series, plus the No Holds Barred movie/match stuff on PPV.
Think it was November 7th so a couple weeks before Survivor Series.
What did you think of the Koko vs Bossman match? I watched that last night for the project and came away from it more impressed with Koko than Bossman.
It was ok.
I think that card might have Jake Roberts’ best ppv match.
Yeah he and Hercules is pretty good.
Yeah? It is pretty good. I think I may say the following are better:
vs. DiBiase at WMVI
vs. Martel at WMVII
vs. Savage at TTiT
And MAYBE Honky at WMIII?
I HATE the DiBiase match. LOVE tge blindfold match it just isn’t really a wrestling match. TTiT maybe. Just a bit short for what it was. Jake does not have a great ppv record.
More WCCW and a Spectrum show from April 83 have been added to the Network.
Crazy that they are unloading WCCW… wonder if those shows were doing well?
I would think that they are doing relatively well considering the mass upload but who knows.
https://www.facebook.com/WrestlingObserver/posts/1394378310617627
8 HR’s for the Nats so far today. One out in the 4th.
New Vintage Vault Refresh is live! Looking at the 100th episode of Raw!
http://placetobenation.com/scott-jts-vintage-vault-refresh-monday-night-raw-22795/
Welp, TNA just cancelled the show they were going to have in Bridgeport next weekend. I was just hoping I’d get to see Drago too, since they’re advertising him for the show the day before in NYC.
Must have been trash ticket sales.
http://impactwrestling.com/bridgeport-conn-live-event-update/
I suspect “unforeseen circumstances and logistical challenges” means something along the lines of “approximately five people bought tickets.”
I didn’t think they were doing house shows anymore.
So, who’s all imagined Braun on his knees begging to Karen Jarrett today then? hahaha
Lol that has to be a fake story right?
I’m sure I saw that it’s been confirmed by Meltzer – even if it isn’t, it’s true in my mind haha
Both Alvarez and Meltzer swear it’s true and they have multiple first-hand accounts of it.
What’s the story here?
WWE and GFW guys ended up in the same restaurant at the weekend. Karen Jarrett goes up to Braun Strowman and ask for an autograph for her son, who’s a big fan.
Braun tells her no, and apparently start shout and swearing at her.
At this point he finds out its Kurt Angle son, and when she says she’s telling him, Braun becomes all apologetic, to the point where HE’S ON HIS KNEES BEGGING HER to not tell Kurt, in front of the whole restaurant!!
Almost too good to be true!
OK I am finally back to this 1/5/91 Superstars… the Royal Rumble theme was the best. Time for the Brother Love Show with guest Hulk Hogan!
Hogan wants Earthquake and has talked to Tugger eye-to-eye that shit could go down between them in Miami.
Honky is indeed announced for the Rumble here during the Report.
No Andre mentioned though so he must have already been pulled by this point.
WWE is so dumb… why not do PPV reports these days? It is a dedicated hard sell window where full attention is placed on selling that show.
WWE not taking advantage of all the resources they have available to them is becoming a problem. How hard would it be to film something in Stamford recapping and going over the upcoming matches set for PPV?
Remember when they had mean gene do a report for summerslam a few years back that was great.
I’d guess since the focus isn’t on selling someone to drop $40 on an impulse buy.
I also don’t watch (or know if they still produce) their “this Week in WWE” show, which had a recap slant.
They didn’t do it long before they switched to WWEN… they also have five hours of prime TV time… they can’t sacrifice five minutes to sell it even at the price drop?
Oh, they do. I catch the tail end of it when I turn on the live feed at 6:55 on PPV nights.
Orient Express vs. The… Mulkey Brothers? Bill and Tony. Vince mocks the last name and keeps saying it, pretty funny rib.
“Turty men!” – Dino Bravo
They did a good job of making you think Slaughter really was tight with Sadaam. The way he always references him and relays messages and what not… was convincing for sure if you weren’t in the know.
I’m on 3/30/91 Superstars. LOADED show. Mania fallout. Vince, Savage and Piper offically the tree man booth. Highlight package from this show, including the Slaughter fireball to Hogan. Vince teasing a Bushwhackers/ Power & Glory feud. Followed by Vince mentioning Brutus possibly coming back to host a “barber shop”. Bulldog in action with Vince hyping a feud with him and Perfect for the IC. First installment of the Funeral Parlor. Debut of the Dragon.
That Bulldog/Perfect feud just went nowhere. They definitely worked around the houses and I think a match made a CHV but never any sort of TV payoff.
The magazines made a huge deal of it, too. I remember wanting them to get an SNME or Superstars match out of it.
IRS vignette up next
Slaughter in the ring for his match. Introduces Col. Mustafa. Vince and Roddy not being shy that he’s the Iron Sheik.
And it’s Mustafa working the match, not Slaughter. Mustafa’s gut is huge.
Yeah they were very open about his identity here and then I think go pretty much silent. Same goes for Saba Simba and Dragon too.
Event Center time with a Warlord and Slick promo. Warlord wants a WWF title match.
Next week in action, Bossman, Jake, the Rockers, Perfect and a funeral parlor is guest the Undertaker.
4/13/91 Superstars – Taker trapping Warrior in the casket. Lanza, Goulet and Garea are useless trying to crack the casket open. Vince, Savage and Roddy doing commentary while these clowns struggle makes this segment all worth it.
This might be the darkest angle the company had done to this point.
I made that mistake of setting up notifications for that Twitter account for Network updates, phone is going nuts with all the WCCW their throwing up
Would have lost our damn minds on the Adventure
3/3/84 episode is the David Von Erich memorial episode.
This is a real interesting one i’d like to check out
I’ve seen the clip before of Hayes paying tribute while in character. Surreal for 1984.
I have memories of seeing that episode.
1/21/84 has Kamala vs a jobber babyface Rick Rude
TGIF returns!
http://nerdist.com/hulu-tgif-full-house-family-matters-step-by-step-perfect-strangers-hangin-with-mr-cooper/
I’m in for a Perfect Strangers rewatch.
Sounds like the Rays are getting Duda for fuck all…
They’re paying him his full salary, Mets aren’t picking any of it up.
Cheap ass Mets… pay the money and get the better prospects!
Does anyone have a link to the MSG June 86 house show so I can catch-up on the podcast
In this special episode of Letters From Center Stage, JT & Allan head into their offices in Atlanta, GA to dive deep into the outer rim of the nostalgia mothership that was WCW:
1. The Long Topic: Ranking the Years – Part Two
2. Special Interview – “The Son of The Gambler” Jeff Gann
To write in to the mailbag, tweet @allan_cheapshot or @place2benation
http://placetobenation.com/letters-from-center-stage-15/
Hey guys, I’m almost caught up on G1, gotta watch today’s show
Caught up on the last two weeks’ worth of Lucha Underground. Puma vs. PJ Black and Pentagon vs. Drago are both extremely worthy matches.
Can’t go wrong with Ricochet/Puma!
He is so very smooth. He makes everything he does look dazzling.
First saw him in DGUSA several years ago. He is staggering to watch. The only high flyer I’ve seen in person who was that smooth was Neville.
And his LU character is getting some complexity now, really adding to the overall picture.
Is JR’s boy Rocco Baldelli the Rays’ first base coach?
Yes he sure is